LOL. SlightLYoff topic, but It’s kind of funny how depending on what time these articles are posted, the opinions most expressed and upvoted are usually flipped every 10-12 hours. 😂😂😂
Also why isn’t this article locked? Isn’t it usually done in like 2 minutes?
Bad article. Using misleading statistics and quouting open antisemites.
BSG Chemie Leipzig’s protest bears the difference from top-tier clubs, which have majorly refrained from mentioning Palestine, by costuming the narrative as Palestine seeking liberation from Hamas.
Apologizing for the crimes of an actual terror oganisation? Shouldn’t Palestine and the man victims living there be freed from this organisation and the terror they conduct both inside and outside the borders of Gaza? While just about every day, another of their leaders talk about welcoming and hoping for more civilian victims and reiterating their threat of more senseless terror attacks in a similar vein as the last one?
How dare they actually wish for that.
Noussair Mazraoui, a practicing Muslim from Morocco, expressed his solidarity with Palestine on Instagram,
He didn’t express his soiidarity with Palenstine, he prayed for a Palenstine victory during and right after their terror attack. And the only victory the current palenstine political and military leadership is wishing for is the complete extermination of all jews in the region and the end of the state of Israel.
under the false premise that being pro-Palestinian somehow dishonors the Holocaust
Well, given the Hamas and a large bit of the pro-Palestinian protestors all over the world, in London, Germany, US and many more places, are activly trivialize the holocaust or even celebrate it openly while advocating for jihad against Israel (see the british hamas supporting GP who organized the protests, the police seizing signs comparing Israel to Nazi germany, One Holocaust does not justify another in germany)
Lörcher acknowledged the civilian casualties in Gaza, but ultimately engaged in the same narrative, boiling it down to “consequences of the Hamas attack on Israel.”
Always complaining about them “not mentioning” the victims in Gaza, and if they do it, you juts move the goalposts again. The current attack is the consequences of the Hamas attack on Israel. It just is. And Hamas knew that when they planned, trained and autorized it. They hopen for less, but they have openly said they knew the consequences and accepted large amounts of civilian victims in Gaza. Besides the fact they still contuct large amounts of propagada and public lying (see the “flattend” hospital).
Between the time of the Hamas attack and the friendly match, over 2000 Palestinian civilians were killed and a little under 9000 were wounded by Israeli forces. Yet no mention of this tragedy, let alone the name “Palestine,” made it into DFB’s statement.
Again, just blindly citing propaganda figures provided by the political arm of Hamas. And completly ignoring the more than 1400 dead israelis and 4100 injured (to that point). This article is also completly ignoring them. And the continued rocket attacks happening every day.
including authorities banning pro-Palestinian rallies “out of fear of further expression of extremist sentiment”, detaining protestors as well as intimidating them with water canons and an overhead helicopter.
Given, in the past, exactly those things have happend at those protests? Why would you continue to allow protests where anitsemitic slogans are shown and scream, thus actually commiting crimes? Then you don’t get another chance. Also, the horror, the same way almost every other protest of young angry mainly male people gets supervised by the police? Ask the Ultras for example. Ever with nothing going on. They didn’t restric flags or scarfs.
The police have cracked down on protests by exercising violent force such as beating people lying on the ground and sitting on their upper bodies, hence obstructing their breathing.
While those protestors also attacks the police with fireworks, build buring barricades and destoryed public property.
Link 1 (German)
65 injured police officers, 174 people arrested
As Emily DischeBecker, director of the German branch of Diaspora Alliance, an NGO fighting both antisemitism and misuse of antisemitism accusations, contended, it is Germany’s wish for “Israel to be the happy ending to the Holocaust.”
The Diaspora Alliance was founded by people who both support and are part of the antisemitic movement of BDS, which is openly against a national state of Israel. The quoted person was also involved in the documenta antisemitism scandal.
Kritikresistent: Das Zentrum für Antisemitismusforschung in Berlin (German)
Although statistics show that over 90% of antisemitic crimes have been committed by right-wing Germans, Muslims and Arabs have been made the scapegoat.
Those statistics have been seen as misleading since 2019, as the police assigns most of the a right wing affiliation extremly early and isn’t doing anything to correct that Link in german. If you correct that and take modern studies combined with better researched stats and dark numbers, you come to a way different conclusion. Also, more and more of them violent in nature.
“xenophobic as well as anti-Semitic offences are to be assigned to the right-wing phenomenon area if the circumstances of the offence and/or the attitude of the perpetrator do not provide any indications to the contrary regarding the perpetrator’s motivation”.
Link (German)
202 registed antisemitic attacks in 8 days after the terror attack (German) And many small attacks aren’t even registered in those statistics.
You wrote all this but still the miss the essential point, the Israelis are occupying Palestinian land and have had Gaza under siege for more than 17 years. Plus only one side is backed to the tilt militarily by the worlds most powerful military force.
I am not talking about the general situation, I am taking the biased talking points of this very article and show the fact, that they are both wrong and misleading.
In general, while the current actions of the Israel gourvement are both worthy of criticism and violated some of the treatys (which also included something about not indiscriminately shooting rockets and killing civilians), the last time they actually did significant work on a two-state-sollution with way more concession that most Israelis were comfortable with or ready to give away, they got the present of rejection, the second Intifada and a deep political, military and religious radicalisation of a whole generation, in large part due to propaganda just like this.
Plus only one side is backed to the tilt militarily by the worlds most powerful military force.
And Hamas has rejected every other recent peace sollution, in part because two states is not in their plans, or any jews in that region. And that is something the author of this article conveniently forgets. And one wants to kill every jew and is digging up water pipes to build rockets.
Thank you! It’s also interesting how Dutch born (and citizen) Mazraoui is “from Morocco” but El Ghazi with the exact same background is “Dutch”.
Thank you! It’s also interesting how Dutch born (and citizen) Mazraoui is “from Morocco” but El Ghazi with the exact same background is “Dutch”.
Couldn’t possibly be because one of the identifies as Dutch and has commited to the Dutch national team, while the other identifies as Moroccan and plays for that national team…
El Ghazi also signed up with the Moroccan NT, he just hasn’t been called up yet.
Ah yes I’m sure this must be it not the fact that it suits the author in this particular moment of his “argument” notwithstanding both are Dutch born double citizens.
Biased af
Although statistics show that over 90% of antisemitic crimes have been committed by right-wing Germans, Muslims and Arabs have been made the scapegoat.
Not true. If an antisemitic crime gets committed and the the police aren’t able to find the person who commuted the crime, it will automatically be attributed to right wing extremism.
These days, hatred of Israel and Jews among young people from immigrant communities and radical Muslims in particular is becoming increasingly obvious. From October 7 until the middle of this week, police had counted 1,254 politically motivated crimes, which they ascribed to the category of “foreign ideologies” – secular ideologies imported to Germany from outside the country – in addition to 172 categorized as “religious ideology.”
Which is a redundant distinction since religious extremism is by definition right wing extremism
Oh wow an actual nuanced and well written article about something important on reddit. I’ll be damned
This is one of the least nuanced articles I’ve read on the issue
By eliciting memories of the atrocities faced by the Jewish community during World War II in this context, BILD attempts to exploit the readers’ emotions under the false premise that being pro-Palestinian somehow dishonors the Holocaust.
Fuck off! This is right in line with the rhetoric of our far-right AfD, most notably Björn Höcke and his “cult of guilt”.
But I get it, some people will never forgive the jews for the Holocaust…or us, cause we didn’t kill them all. /s
Has nothing to do with AfD’s stance. No one is saying to dishonor the Holocaust, but it shouldn’t be used to justify a genocide against the Palestinians either