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      That’s not true, people are more and more willing to acknowledge and address climate change. There’s been a big shift from ten years ago.

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        Not like it even matters at this point. There’s a decades long lag time on CO2 emissions so even if we completely stop today the planet will continue warming for decades.

        Not to mention the arctic circle is a literal ticking time bomb that will blow long before the anyways. Methane is literally blasting out from the ground leaving giant craters behind. Methane is 28 times more potent than CO2 when it comes to trapping heat in the atmosphere.

        Just look at how countries around the world combatted COVID. Climate catastrophe is going to be magnitudes worse than that and people are still sticking their heads in the sand.

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          It absolutely will matters… ever bit we can and emitting helps the planet in the future. No need for a fatalistic attitude.

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            We are (very likely) already past the point of no return when it comes to tipping points. You can’t refreeze the arctic which is currently thawing at alarming rates. You cant grab the methane back from the air and put it into the ground.

            The release of methane and other ancient CO2 from the permafrost will catapult us past other tipping points like a BOE as well.

            It’s not fatalistic, it’s realistic. The IPCC has warned of this stuff for years and people still believe renewables are going to allow us to skirt the worst of climate change when it’s already locked in lol.

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              Yeah it’s horrifying to watch I agree, that doesn’t mean our actions don’t have impacts

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      Do you think the real reports from the petroleum institutes were so dire back in the day that they knew we we’re already fucked regardless? I get that “money” but like, are/were they all just that cold and psychopathic that they kick the can knowing it means the likely eventual death of their progeny and end of their lineage? It’s just so pervasive and the action so performative that it makes you question the very fabric of reality.

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        We can’t know the percentages, but I suspect a lot of climate disaster deniers simply can’t react any other way, for a number of different reasons. Combine denial of disaster with an inability to admit you were wrong, and presto, you get Business as Usual.

        IF – big if – some shitbag CEO had full knowledge and real understanding that he was personally involved in killing the planet and indirectly all life on earth, you can just jump right back to those same defense mechanisms and find he was probably expecting some hail mary science to save the day eventually.

        OOPS

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        My guess is people can always find someone to tell them what they want to hear. So much easier to be “operating based on the best information you have” than lie knowingly.

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          sort of a “yes man” scenario? That’s plausible. It would be interesting to look into at the very least.