In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
-Killing members of the group;
-Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
-Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
No, the clear intent is to attack Hamas, not massacre the populace. If you think the collateral damage from that action is too much, say that without trying to pretend things which aren’t genocide are genocide.
They’re bombing hospitals, refugee camps, ambulances, even bakeries. They’re restricting their access to food, fuel, medicine, and clean water. They’re killing them by the thousands. Thousands of children have been blown up. They’re forcibly displacing them from the North into the South and intend to force them into Egypt, where they’ll never be allowed to return. They’ve rejected all negotiation with Hamas and are refusing to allow international observers and continually are cutting them off from outside communications.
Because Hamas is using ambulances as military transports and using refugee camps, hospitals, and bakeries as military bases. What, are they not supposed to go after Hamas if they decide to commit war crimes and hide their military forces inside medical centers? That’s stupid, they’ll just start launching rockets from the roof of the hospitals and probably moon the drones.
It’s not genocide. You’re a liar and I don’t know why you’re running interference for genocidal lunatics like Hamas, whose goal is to martyr all of their population in order to kill as many Jews as possible.
There’s no actual proof of any of that, it’s just secret Israeli intelligence we’re supposed to believe.
If Israel was committing a genocide their actions would look identical to what they’re doing by starving the population, cutting off power to water plants and hospitals, and bombing literally everything. Their actions are indistinguishable from genocide, you just choose to believe they’re shooting through human shields because you’re running interference for a genocidal apartheid regime.
Dude it’s Occam’s razor. Why would the Israelis target hospitals and ambulances without them being used by Hamas? You’re claiming both the Israelis and the US government are lying about that without evidence. I think it’s far more likely that genocidal religious fanatics who have demonstrated that they don’t care about the rules of war, civilian casualties, or protecting their populace are using hospitals and ambulances for military staging in line with reports about available intelligence. It’s in line with their behavior.
And while the Israelis haven’t exactly been too careful about collateral damage, they have consistently attempted to target military targets. Otherwise, if they were trying to kill civilians, why the hell would they order an evacuation of the conflict zone and give civilians time to get free?
Why would the Israelis target hospitals and ambulances without them being used by Hamas?
To make Gaza uninhabitable so they are all forced away from Northern Gaza into Southern Gaza, and eventually become refugees in Egypt. Then, steal the land for themselves. Gaza has always been a thorn in their side. Why wouldn’t they want it gone? Occam’s Razor dude, the simplest explanation for why they kill civilians is because that’s the point.
Otherwise, if they were trying to kill civilians, why the hell would they order an evacuation of the conflict zone and give civilians time to get free?
They’re also bombing people who evacuated the conflict zone and the refugee camps, so.
As for motivation, they would prefer to forcibly transfer the population of Gaza and not actually kill them all. Partially because that would be bad for morale, partially because it would destabilize international relationships, and mostly because it would trigger a regional war with every country in the region calling for blood. Even if they don’t all die, forced transfer through mass killing is genocide.
To make Gaza uninhabitable so they are all forced away from Northern Gaza into Southern Gaza, and eventually become refugees in Egypt.
That’s ridiculous, they don’t need to bomb hospitals for that. Shit, they don’t need to bomb at all, they can just occupy Gaza. Which they might do, I mean, we are at the “find out” stage and Hamas has surely fucked around, but it’s generally a bad idea to start wars you can’t win.
They’re also bombing people who evacuated the conflict zone and the refugee camps, so.
Yeah they’re bombing anywhere that Hamas is.
and mostly because it would trigger a regional war with every country in the region calling for blood.
I really don’t think it would. It would probably trigger a conflict with Hezbollah and militants from the West Bank, but I don’t think there’s a universe where Egypt or Jordan have an appetite for going to war to protect Palestinian interests. Neither nation is interested in that can of worms. Neither Lebanon nor Syria have anything approaching the means to prosecute a war.
But they’re not doing that?
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
-Killing members of the group;
-Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
-Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
It’s genocide.
No, the clear intent is to attack Hamas, not massacre the populace. If you think the collateral damage from that action is too much, say that without trying to pretend things which aren’t genocide are genocide.
They’re bombing hospitals, refugee camps, ambulances, even bakeries. They’re restricting their access to food, fuel, medicine, and clean water. They’re killing them by the thousands. Thousands of children have been blown up. They’re forcibly displacing them from the North into the South and intend to force them into Egypt, where they’ll never be allowed to return. They’ve rejected all negotiation with Hamas and are refusing to allow international observers and continually are cutting them off from outside communications.
It’s a genocide and you are a genocide denier.
Because Hamas is using ambulances as military transports and using refugee camps, hospitals, and bakeries as military bases. What, are they not supposed to go after Hamas if they decide to commit war crimes and hide their military forces inside medical centers? That’s stupid, they’ll just start launching rockets from the roof of the hospitals and probably moon the drones.
It’s not genocide. You’re a liar and I don’t know why you’re running interference for genocidal lunatics like Hamas, whose goal is to martyr all of their population in order to kill as many Jews as possible.
There’s no actual proof of any of that, it’s just secret Israeli intelligence we’re supposed to believe.
If Israel was committing a genocide their actions would look identical to what they’re doing by starving the population, cutting off power to water plants and hospitals, and bombing literally everything. Their actions are indistinguishable from genocide, you just choose to believe they’re shooting through human shields because you’re running interference for a genocidal apartheid regime.
Dude it’s Occam’s razor. Why would the Israelis target hospitals and ambulances without them being used by Hamas? You’re claiming both the Israelis and the US government are lying about that without evidence. I think it’s far more likely that genocidal religious fanatics who have demonstrated that they don’t care about the rules of war, civilian casualties, or protecting their populace are using hospitals and ambulances for military staging in line with reports about available intelligence. It’s in line with their behavior.
And while the Israelis haven’t exactly been too careful about collateral damage, they have consistently attempted to target military targets. Otherwise, if they were trying to kill civilians, why the hell would they order an evacuation of the conflict zone and give civilians time to get free?
To make Gaza uninhabitable so they are all forced away from Northern Gaza into Southern Gaza, and eventually become refugees in Egypt. Then, steal the land for themselves. Gaza has always been a thorn in their side. Why wouldn’t they want it gone? Occam’s Razor dude, the simplest explanation for why they kill civilians is because that’s the point.
They’re also bombing people who evacuated the conflict zone and the refugee camps, so.
As for motivation, they would prefer to forcibly transfer the population of Gaza and not actually kill them all. Partially because that would be bad for morale, partially because it would destabilize international relationships, and mostly because it would trigger a regional war with every country in the region calling for blood. Even if they don’t all die, forced transfer through mass killing is genocide.
That’s ridiculous, they don’t need to bomb hospitals for that. Shit, they don’t need to bomb at all, they can just occupy Gaza. Which they might do, I mean, we are at the “find out” stage and Hamas has surely fucked around, but it’s generally a bad idea to start wars you can’t win.
Yeah they’re bombing anywhere that Hamas is.
I really don’t think it would. It would probably trigger a conflict with Hezbollah and militants from the West Bank, but I don’t think there’s a universe where Egypt or Jordan have an appetite for going to war to protect Palestinian interests. Neither nation is interested in that can of worms. Neither Lebanon nor Syria have anything approaching the means to prosecute a war.