• PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

    You mean like with abortion policy, or gun policy, or made up culture war bullshit, or the fascism?

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      10 months ago

      The abortion policy I agree with

      The gun policies are fine. What do you think is wrong with the gun policies? I carry a gun daily. I carry an assault rifle in my trunk. That is my right and is needed with the violent democrats.

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        10 months ago

        Whether you agree with policy is independent of whether or not it is bad strategy.

        All you’re saying here is that you agree with shooting yourself in your foot.

        That is my right and is needed with the violent democrats.

        It’s actually republicans that make up the larger share of domestic terrorism. Your fears are misplaced.

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          10 months ago

          Most criminals are democrats. Summer of love killed over two dozen people.

          Democrat cities have the highest murder rates.

          Most prisoners are democrats.

          So what issues do you find with the firearms laws?

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              10 months ago

              I have done my homework. I am not sure why you are citing so many things irrelevant to the conversation.

              Domestic terrorism has little to do with the many democrats in prison.

              The red states’ murder problem are in gasp democrat-run cities.

              Look at the top cities for murder rate and only 1 is a republican led city.

              Now what is relevant is more criminals are democrats.

              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-7-in-10-felons-register-as-democrats

              Maybe you should stay on topic and do some homework.

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                I am not sure why you are citing so many things irrelevant to the conversation

                All of these things I’ve cited are in fact revelant to which side is more violent.

                Domestic terrorism has little to do

                But it does have to do with which side is more violent.

                The red states’ murder problem are in gasp democrat-run cities.

                You’re so close to understanding. Try just a little bit harder.

                Perhaps, maybe, just maybe being surrounded by red could have an impact on cities. It’s almost like cities have limited options when the red state they are in actively makes it impossible to handle crime.

                Keep up claiming that correlation is causation and you’ll stay just as misinformed as you are right now.

                Look at the top cities for murder rate and only 1 is a republican led city.

                Correlation does not imply causation.

                Now what is relevant is more criminals are democrats.

                Correlation does not imply causation.

                And I already addressed this, and with a more factual, less biased news source:

                https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2020/aug/1/survey-8000-prisoners-political-views-finds-surprising-results/

                https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

                https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prison-legal-news-pln-bias/

                And not only that, but post-prison reporting is by far the worst version of these stats to pull, as it only makes the problem of correlation/causation worse.

                Has it ever occurred to you that post prison, they might register democrat because democrats are the only ones advocating for prisoners to be treated humanely? Whereas republicans are glad to treat people as animals. You’re not looking at the right data.

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                  10 months ago

                  It isn’t relevant as it has nothing to do with what was stated. It’s word vomit.

                  The cities are responsible for their own crime. People are not driving from the burbs to shoot people in the city.

                  You haven’t addressed anything. You’ve created a weird straw man argument that has nothing to do with what I said. It’s the typically liberal skrill.

                  As I cited most felons are democrats. It’s a well known fact.

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                    10 months ago

                    It isn’t relevant as it has nothing to do with what was stated. It’s word vomit.

                    You literally said “That is my right and is needed with the violent democrats.”

                    The topic is the violence of each group. Therefore right wing domestic terrorism (which is larger than left wing domestic terrorism) is therefore relevant.

                    The cities are responsible for their own crime.

                    Cities do not exist in a vacuum. It is not a closed system.

                    People are not driving from the burbs to shoot people in the city.

                    I never said otherwise. My point is that guns being easily accessible in rural regions makes guns easily accessible in urban regions. Cities do not exist in a vacuum, and gun law can generally only ever be as strong as the weakest nearby region.

                    And on top of that, correlation does not imply causation. So simply stating “democrat cities violent” doesn’t tell you jack shit. You need to be looking at the actual causes, and political leanings ain’t it.

                    As I cited most felons are democrats. It’s a well known fact.

                    Now you’re just burying your head in the sand. I gave you a better source than your own, from actual prisoners instead of ex prisoners. You’re well known fact is complete horseshit. The biggest political group in prison is republicans.

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      10 months ago

      Nice loaded question you got there.

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          10 months ago

          It implies things are true. Its a basic manipulation tactic.

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            10 months ago

            I mean all of the things I listed are some of the reasons why so many people vote against republicans. It is in fact all true.

            But I was wondering if there was a particular reason you thought so.

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              10 months ago

              You’re arguing in bad faith. I’m not going to anwser such an obvious loaded question.

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                10 months ago

                No, I am genuinely wondering how you of all people think the republican party is failing.