No, you don’t understand, every one with a functioning brain must think that Arsenal got robbed, that the Saudis are behind the conspiracy of match fixing and that the VAR decision should have been viewed by Arsenal fans to ensure that there are no bias against Arsenal coming from possible Newcastle, Chelsea, Spurs, and City fans.
No arguing with these muppets, world is against them and Saudi have bought the refs, could have a unanimous panel of 100 and arsenal fans will still think it’s rigged
Its hard to take Arteta and Arsenal fans seriously when they wont admit Havertz was a red card.
Arsenal get on with it. Proper embarrassed yourself. There’s been 19 worse calls this season. It all evens out. You will never get perfection. How did everybody survive without VAR?
66% failure rate on the 3 absolutely match altering decisions is disgraceful, but the lack of consequence for the failures even more.
So the independent committee either is very biased or isn’t independent if they think that wasn’t a foul on Gabriel. Someone is trying to save face for the PGMOL
Nice comedy gold from them here.
Anyone else notice the havertz pic is beautifully edited to look like the leading leg is striking the ankle instead of the trailing leg that actually hit it?
1 out of 3… Nothing to see here, as you were 🤷🏻♂️
??? why always the first image that is shown in havertz tackle? That leg doesn’t even catch anyone
I mean they voted that Havertz tackle was a red 5-0 and that Bruno’s was a red 3-2… their findings are hard to deem credible.
But the thing is, football laws are subjective for the most part to the individual interpretation. That game was anomaly, not the norm. I will always be a firm believer that if you need to watch the play more than once to make a decision, whatever ref decided is the correct call.
If we keep playing and replaying these instances, and yet we have major divide on the correctness of the calls, then these arguments are invalid.
Arsenal was unfortunate because of the end result, but the whole disgrace to football is just bullshit to make their fans feel better about the loss.
If the Joelinton tackle isn’t a foul either then it’s going to be really easy to defend crosses if you can just push over the attackers.
This sounds pedantic but they weren’t voting on whether it was a red or not, they were voting on whether the VAR intervention was correct. And yes, for the record I think it makes very little difference here and I’m surprised it wasn’t unanimously agreed as wrong. But I can only assume they disagreed on the basis of whether its ‘clear and obvious red’ as opposed to red card at all.
Referee didn’t see it at all, meaning any potential red should refer the referee to thr screen so he can make a judgement, let alone such a blatant one.
Also the screenshot provided for the havertz tackle is completely misrepresenting the point of contact. AFAIK the only foot that made contact was the trailing left foot that stayed on the ground. The right high foot completely missed.
Why are people so hung up on the voting results? Isn’t the outcome the same?
They are dishonest to their federation.
I dunno, expecting 100% unanimous is not how things work though. That’s why you have multiple people on a panel. Came to the right decision at least now
R/soccers obsession with the Havertz one not being red is bonkers to me. It’s the definition of reckless.
Football is as subjective as boxing now,
These fucks are trying to make us root for Arsenal over Newcastle
Would love to know how “independent” these folks are. What’s the point of making their identities hidden? They could have side hustles in the middle-east for all we know…
And to see they’re trying to dust their hands with the Havertz tackle, when if we look across 10 matches it was clear that the ref’s on field and VAR were systemically not interested in giving straight reds for harsh challenges that weekend.
Only one player got a straight red for an equivalent dangerous challenge and it was in the box and after he already should’ve gotten one for violent conduct.
That picture of the Havertz tackle is also weird, given he only touched him with the left leg. Don’t know why that should be a clear red tbh, even if he had some speed
If he had made contact though (and it was a matter of inches) there was every chance of a career-ending (or limiting) injury. That would have been a lot of force into a planted leg.
Red without any hesitation.
That’s always the case when they use single frames to discuss events of the game. Joelintons push looks a lot worse in the photos that everyone uses than it does in video form. That’s not me saying it isn’t a foul, more so that the photos make it look a lot worse.
Thats what I thought about the Havertz tackle too.
I mean it was a rough tackle no doubt. But he didnt try to ‘get him’ with his leading foot. He clipped him with the trailing foot and because of that I dont think it was reckless.
He absolutely did not only hit Longstaff with his left leg. His right leg catches Longstaff, it was pure luck it didn’t hit him hard enough to do serious damage.
I feel like this so called “PL Independent Key Match Incident” committee proceeded purely to discredit Arteta’s statement. Sky Sports & PGMOL are all both in cahoots to protect each other & prop each other’s interests. This is why they can suddenly conjure Howard Webb for a cheeky little guest appearances on MNF.
Apparently there is not enough evidence in that picture
Probably because, just as football fans rage over other VAR decisions showing refs just the still image, a still image doesn’t show enough evidence. Go back slightly from the where the still image is, you’ll see Gabriel jumps upward slightly, before then flopping himself.
I don’t mind getting downvoted into oblivion by fans who disagree with this, but go take a careful look for yourself, without bias, and you’ll see Joelinton doesn’t impede Gabriel, and Gabriel’s movement is inconsistent with if he’d been pushed, hence he can’t have been pushed.
Funny that. They decide that the match defining call was correct but happy to hold their hands up to the other two.
It was a foul for the goal. It’s fucking simple. Cowards.
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I’m in awe people are still crying about this. The Liverpool decision last night was worse and the man United decision was about on par and everyone has moved on.
Right?
Like this doesn’t even rate in the top 5 most atrocious games for reffing this season.
True, because other decisions were worse we should ignore all other injustices. We should also just move on and then complain about the same stuff next week when more bad decisions happen. Nothings going to change if people don’t keep talking about it.
For me, I think it’s because people can’t even admit that Arsenal got fucked over that match. There are still people who think the goal was fair.
Then there’s stories of PGMOL making sure pundits cover the referees
If Harvetz is sent off like he should of been either for the tackle they reviewed or the other late tackle that should have been a second yellow, then the game is probably very different.
It’s being reposted by a United fan, only difference is this is now in a neat little graphic instead of the full report.
Arsenal have the most batshit conspiracy theory crazy fanbase on the internet, they are either 10yr olds or have the mental capacity of 10yr olds. it’s hilarious how triggered they got over a correct decision this week. They’ve become the new banter FC, been some incredible takes. Been fun to watch the state of some of it
Man I am crying about all of it. I don’t care if it was UEFA, the Rashford Red Card was fucking atrocious. I didn’t see the Liverpool call but I also cried about the abysmal communication that disallowed Liverpool’s goal against Tottenham too. And I will cry when any team is fucked over by the refs. Refs are making headlines more than players are, and that is a problem.
I think it’s the fact that there are 3 controversial incidents in one game and within one of those incidents 3 controversial calls were made.
Add to that the aggrieved parties manager called out the refereeing organisation.
Arsenal fans are the softest fan base in all of football. I honestly don’t get how they watch the game and find enjoyment out of it.
You just wake up this week mate? Old news with at least one post already.
Players see a red , miss three matches, Few more yellows, miss a match, easy touch Wrong call? Ohh human error darling. Blunder? Apologies maybe? 😳👉🏻👈🏻