JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

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    And also because Hamas is using Hospitals as base of operations because they will get sympathy for it and human shields. No side is right here

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      Can you please reread what you just said? You’re saying it’s okay to kill children and innocent people in order to kill someone else you actually want to kill?

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        Hamas must be completely eliminated, period. No cost is too great, for the good of the entire world and all its future children.

        Please explain your strategy which accomplishes that goal while not harming the human shields they’re using, and collect your Nobel Peace Prize.

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          " Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

          Friedrich Nietzsche

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          Not yours. Israel isn’t doing a thing in Qatar.

          You’re either a liar or you believe in obvious lies.

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        I think you need glasses or some mental help because that’s not what I said. I am saying Hamas is committing war crimes by using the hospital and forcing Israel into war crimes by attacking the hospital. There is no good guy here. If you reread that’s what I said

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            According to international law they are. If they shoot from a school, Israel has to shoot back. Do they are forcing their hand

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              Could you cite that law for me? Because last I checked there is no such law forcing Isreal to shoot back, school or otherwise.

              Intentionally bombing civilians is a war crime. I don’t care how many of your “intended targets” you think you’re getting. If you are bombing civilian centers, like, oh let’s say a hospital for instance, then you are a war criminal, Full stop. There is nothing forcing Isreal to do that.

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            Israel had to tear down one of its own police stations in Sderot becausesome Hamas terrorists were cooped up in there after attacking it on the 7th of October.

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            Yeah I guess they can just do nothing and die from the bombs and missiles that Hamas is firing from their civil headquarters

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              If only there was some wide range of alternatives between “bomb innocent people in hospitals” and “do nothing and die”…oh wait, there are.

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              If you read the article it outlines what international law says:

              Even if Israel succeeds in proving Shifa conceals a Hamas command center, the tenets of international law remain in place, said Jessica Wolfendale, expert in military ethics at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio.

              “It doesn’t license an instant attack,” she said. “Steps need to be taken to protect the innocent as much as possible.”

              If the harm to civilians is disproportionate to the military objective, the attack is illegal under international law.

              They need to not only provide proof beforehand but also take steps to mitigate innocent death and injury.

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      You really think using human shields is really a good excuse to bomb hospitals. “they’re using hostages! Quick teach those hostages a goddamn guided 2000lb lesson!”

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        Ok, let’s just let Hamas murder millions. They’re invincible because all they have to do is grab the nearest civilian.

        Get the fuck outta here with that idiotic child logic…

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          Get the fuck out of here justifying genocide.

          Never again was for everyone.

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          Look hamas killing “millions” is unlikely given they haven’t topped 5000.

          Coolio. So lemme grab your kids take them hostage and you can tell me again that murdering me and your children is the only solution to hostage situation.

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      There is clear evidence that at least some hospitals were alleged to be Hamas operation centers but in fact were not. But even if they were operation centers, would you still think it’s justified? How many Hamas members are worth how many “accidental” deaths of hospital staff and patients? Who would even dream of making such a formula? It’s sick.

      The issue at hand is about hospitals being destroyed, not about the Israel-Palestine conflict on the whole. Please save your “no side is right” language for an issue where that actually applies.