• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    Hey so I think you’re pretty rad person who’s obviously investing a lot of effort in setting up cool communities and making tools to keep them safe.

    I also think you got unfairly dogpiled in a pretty frustrating way.

    But further, it seemed to me you were not trying to de-escalate there. I know the hexbear dogpile can be a bit ridiculous (honestly that place confuses me, I see both the absolute sanest and most unhinged posts coming out of hexbear users) but at this point you are definitely feeding the trolls.

    I get that this might be fun for you, but it does use up a lot of bandwidth in the community and I worry it harms the quality of conversations we might be able to have in the future.

    Once again I want to be clear that this remark comes from a place of respect, you obviously care about fostering online community and hence this last couple of days is confusing to me.

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        11 months ago

        I’m not sure if you’re aware but db0 has been working on CSAM filtering, safe federation lists and similar.

        Maybe cut them some slack? That’s certainly more work than I put in.

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          11 months ago

          I didn’t remember, though if this is the AI guy then I did read the post. I still need to question the deeply antisocial behavior patterns when it comes to anything having to do with communication, though.

          Not that we shouldn’t give them credit for whatever good they do, we should.

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      11 months ago

      It’s understand the concern. This is just how I deal with this stuff myself. I can absorb a lot off abusive behaviour but I have to blow off some steam somehow, and this is my way.

      Unlike what hexbears might say, I’m not trying to goad them. Notice that I never went out of my way to invite their dogpiles.

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        I’m not trying to goad them. Notice that I never went out of my way to invite their dogpiles.

        My sweet little pain piggy, you keep letting out clarion calls that summons all the silly bears out of every nook and cranny of the lemmynet

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        11 months ago

        Unlike what hexbears might say, I’m not trying to goad them.

        You literally put the hexbear logo in the whiny little meme you’ve posted here.

        You’re not fooling anyone with your reddit-tier bs lmao

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        11 months ago

        We are explicitly a left unity community and Your first (racist) meme was explicitly against left unity and you literally included our logo in this one. If that isn’t goading us what would be in your eyes?

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        Yeah idk you defs don’t want spaces dominated by the norms of whoever is the most annoying. I’ve wasted far too much time at meetings with certain pot stirrers interjecting with their own little axe at every chance.

        I’m just very weary of fostering tribalism and shit slinging in a time when the left is roundly loosing in the majority of the most powerful countries.

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          Eh the death of the left has been greatly exaggerated. Sure parliamentary left is “losing” but parliamentary left was worse than useless anyway. Spare no tears for that. Struggle breeds radicalization and if you are looking you will see that the embers are already flaming.

          Anyway I’m not trying to do tribalism. I could have easily followed the trend and defederated if that was my goal. I actually like the chance to be criticized from the left. I’m not perfect. But I do have some strong convictions as well.

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            11 months ago

            “I actually like the chance to be criticized from the left.“

            Is this a joke? Every good faith criticism you have received from the left you act as if it is some dog pile attack and like you didn’t invite this debate with your first extremely divisive (and racist) meme. You kept repeating Ad Nauseum that you “didn’t owe anyone a debate” and telling us we’re “sea lioning”. Guess what dipshit? You know what criticism from the left is going to feel like: A DEBATE!

            In what way does that behavior demonstrate that you are in any way open to left criticism? I presume you just conveniently omit anyone who you see as a “Tankie” from “the left” you are ok being criticized by.

            You are a terminally reddit brained person who colors themself as an Anarchist because you like the aesthetic. You are happy to punch left and carry water for Imperialism because it gives you some individualistic and smug sense of moral correctness. That feeling is obviously more important to you than understanding AES states on their terms and learning from what they did right and what they did wrong without moralizing like the child that you are.

            Your convictions are as strong as apple sauce. These two posts have made it abundantly clear to me that without some fucking humility, self Crit, and willingness to engage with other leftists who disagree with you (re: DEBATE) you are the kind of “leftist” who would sell out a successful left wing movement if there ever was one because they were “too authoritarian”

            If Hexbear users are so bad do us a favor and de-federate because this is clearly a waste of everyone’s time and energy.

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            11 months ago

            I could have easily followed the trend and defederated if that was my goal.

            This is very awesome of you I must say. I was hoping some real friendship from both sides could happen here.

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        11 months ago

        You kicked the extremist groupthink hornet’s nest by mentioning them. Whenever I give one of them shit, 10 more show up out of the woodwork.