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      8 months ago

      Cats cant pronounce that tough, so it has to count all of those in a socialist’s name.

      In other news have you seen the latest royal wedding? So beautiful and glamorous, makes me feel blessed to have monarchs ruling over us!

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      8 months ago

      Hey, i hate the british too, but the article doesn’t directly blame the british for the famines and it also includes famines that took place in non-british held or administrated territories.

      Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

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        8 months ago

        Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

        To be fair… They were only practising for how they’d treat modern Britain.

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        8 months ago

        It also just one territory, I’m sure the Irish also have a few bones to pick.

        Though speaking of time advantage, the best answer might be “mosquitos”, and while “blood sucking insects” could be a name for british colonists, they didn’t spread malaria since the dawn of humanity

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      8 months ago

      In fairness we’ve been around a lot longer, but it is impressive how one little island nation has managed to fuck so much shit up from afar.

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      8 months ago

      Yep, anyone saying otherwise is doing mental gymnastics.

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        8 months ago

        Or simply keeping with the theme of answers being a single individual and not an entire nation of hundreds of millions of people spanning centuries.

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          8 months ago

          Fair enough to be honest. I hate Mao, Genghis Khan, Hitler and Stalin too for being genocidal fucks.

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        8 months ago

        Is it Mr the brits or Mrs the brits?

        Ohhhh, you’re conflating a single leader with an entire country.

        You must be a lib, tankies say libs never argue in good faith, and your false equivalence is certainly in bad faith.

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          8 months ago

          Until recently it was Mrs. Now it’s Mr or alternatively his majesty king Charles the 3rd.

          Is there enough reliable data to give a kill count for the different monarchs? It would be kind of interesting who scores highest in that regard.

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            8 months ago

            Exactly! Mao was one leader, England killed millions, sure, but that was spread over many many rulers.

            Mao stands at the top afaik, I’d love to see some stats though!

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          8 months ago

          We were all pretty cool with it all at the time tbh.

          Plenty of us will still defend it, which is crazy.

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      8 months ago

      Can hardly blame them, pestilence and diseases are a genuine concern for any empire where armed forces have to move far distances over land or sea

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        8 months ago

        Can definitely blame them… Several of the famines in their ‘empire’ were either engineered, caused through incompetence or arrogance, or ignored when preventable.

        Ref: Any of bengal’s several famines under British rule, frankly even after once you take Churchill into account.

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      8 months ago

      Nice shoehorn of anglo-saxon history, but those famines are all plagues and crop faliures for the most part.

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        8 months ago

        Why is it the rich never starve if it’s just a totally unaccountable natural disaster?

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          8 months ago

          Rich usually have more resources and ability to purchase them at elevated prices. Hope that helps

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            So it’s less of a natural disaster and more of an economic disaster? I wonder why people would blame governments for that…

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              It is like miles away from the intentional economical engineering we are talking about. Still not sure why you are so bent on trying to wiggle them into a comparsion between regimes and personnel more direct, intentional and immediate like Mao or Stalin.

              If you dont distinguish from those, then why even have a debate on them?

              The joke implied that the question intended to ask one or very few directly involved personnel and you disregarded that. Thats it.

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                8 months ago

                Right sure, when the British intentionally abuse Ireland and India it’s really just a whoopsie-daisy.

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                  8 months ago

                  Should I really do the same kind of jumping to conclusions?

                  Are you saying that the largest completely man made famine ever does not really deserve that much of a recognition?

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        8 months ago

        They forced farmers to grow indigo crops instead of natural cotton/wheat/rice.

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          Im pretty sure that was not during the drought itself, nor really caused it. It economically made sense and then probably exacerbated the famine.

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            8 months ago

            It wasn’t just the drought. Indigo cropping destroyed the soil first, drought exacerbated the problems.

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          8 months ago

          No

          A famine is a widespread scarcity of food,[1][2] caused by several factors including war, natural disasters, crop failure, widespread poverty, an economic catastrophe or government policies.

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      8 months ago

      I’ve used this joke IRL with our cats. There’s another one for dogs:

      A guy and a dog walk into a bar. The bartender says, “hey, you can’t bring a dog in here.”

      The guy says, “this is no ordinary dog. He’s a talking dog.”

      Bartender says, “yeah? Prove it.” The guy turns to the dog and says, “What’s on top of the building?” And the dog says “Roof! Roof!”

      Then the guy says, “How does a brick feel?” The dog says “Rough! Rough!”

      The guy then says, “Who was the greatest ballplayer of all time?” The dog says “Ruth! Ruth!”

      They are thrown out of the bar.

      When they’re out on the street, the dog turns to the man and says, “So, you think I should have said DiMaggio?”

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        8 months ago

        They are thrown out of the bar

        I’m surprised you weren’t with that joke. speaking from experience, i love my lame jokes. (and I’m not totally stealing this one…not at all.)

        • KnightontheSun@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Lame jokes can be presented in a funny way. Delivery is important. My favorite method is “matter of fact” like I am telling a normal story about usual things. Catches the recipient off-guard and the joke lands much more betterer.

      • hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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        Or this classic very dark joke: How do you make a cat sound like a dog? You pour gasoline on the cat and light it on fire. WHOOF

        How do you make a dog sound like a cat? Push the dog through a buzz saw. MEEOOWW

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    8 months ago

    I get the joke but I still expected some tankies to show up. But then again, OP is on lemmy.world which is defederated with the tankie instances so that’s why

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      While it has proven difficult to accurately estimate the pre-colonial population and the amount by which it changed under the Congo Free State, estimates for the Congolese population decline during Leopold’s rule range from 1 million to 15 million.

      That’s a lot, but not even close to Mao

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      8 months ago

      Noobish kdr. Max 10 millions deaths, somewhere between a French general during WWI (not counting German casualties) and minor paranoid dictators. Too much time larping as a psychopathic torturer, not enough time getting the job done. Mao killed several million people on a good mood, that’s professionalism.

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        That’s ridiculous, you can’t judge the genocidal madmen KDA on body count alone, Leopold simply did more evil with less resources than anyone ever!

        Starting position matters, and Leopold came from behind to become one of the worsts.

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      8 months ago

      The vast majority of deaths under communism have been because of famine…

      …which may well be true for Capitalism as well.

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          7 months ago

          You can probably get a few if you stop and make the maths, specially when abusing developing countries.

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            7 months ago

            Well if you count percent oof population per year then pol pot the dictator of Cambodia would have the highest

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    8 months ago

    Mosquitoes, thanks to Malaria. Estimated kill count (according to a Nature article from 2002) 50-60 Billion people.

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      Wow. You’re really gonna just blame a whole race over a few billion deaths?

      /s please don’t hang me in these streets

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      7 months ago

      More a person responsible kinda thing. I think Mao does top it but due to starvation thanks to his idiot policies that ruined crops