Edit: good to see I woke the shills

  • OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.

    At this point, what advantage? He’s been polling worse than Trump. He’s more of an anchor than an engine now.

    That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.

    With Dems there’s always an excuse to do nothing and hope really hard for vague change later.

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      1 year ago

      Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.

      Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit. Voting dem won’t fix issues, it will just prevent many more from cropping up. What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.

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        1 year ago

        This, I keep telling people this…

        No Democrats will not fix anything, yes we should still vote for them.

        It’ll be easier to grassroots change if we don’t have Republicans, who will not only react negatively to grassroots (As opposed to Democrats who are more malleable), but prove every day that they can go further right than “We should literally hunt the poor for sport.”

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        Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.

        I’m sure many people will be comforted by that when he loses.

        Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit.

        Read up on the Ratchet Effect.

        What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.

        I too, like vague undefined concepts that obfuscate real potential solutions.

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          It’s not about comfort, voting harder won’t meaningfully improve anything, just prevent it from getting worse.

          I’m aware of the ratchet effect.

          Do you want me to list out every meaningful thing you can do to improve your life and the lives of others? Advocate, unionize, organize, volunteer, start a community garden, work at a soup kitchen, educate yourself and others, help someone in need, etc. It isn’t that complicated, really, and your denial of actually doing shit to help and instead whine about how Biden is a Neoliberal ghoul (which I agree with) and therefore can’t beat a fascist (I disagree with this) is absurd.

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            1 year ago

            Republicans actively laugh at protesters. If people are protesting, they think, “I’ve gotta be doing something right to be triggering the libs like this.”

            /Grew up in a Republican household with all Republican extended family

            In fact, the largest protests in history (to that date) were in opposition to starting the Iraq war. Fat load of good that did.

            Democrats protest. Republicans vote. Guess who’s running the show.

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              1 year ago

              Protesting helps a little, that’s not what I’m referring to by a grassroots movement. You can’t really do much in the face of a bourgeois dictatorship via electoral means, the system itself is designed against radical change.

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      1 year ago

      Trump’s literally facing felonies and is inelligible for the ballot in a few states