Barack Obama: “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine. Music like Bob Dylan or Stevie Wonder, that’s different”::Barack Obama has weighed in on AI’s impact on music creation in a new interview, saying, “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine”.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    AI can create boring and mediocre elaborations just fine.

    Now.

    A year ago even the boring stuff was impossible. Six months ago it’d do everything okay but fumble the details. Today? Sometimes the only reason AI art stands out is that models like central framing and eye contact.

    Six months from now, I don’t know and you don’t either. You can posture about the indomitable human et cetera and ignore how it mirrors past declarations about what’s possible right now. The joke goes, “AI is whatever hasn’t been done yet.” And buddy, that category never gets bigger.

    If there are rules, a deep enough network can discern them. And we are a lot less complex than we’d like to think.

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      10 months ago

      Now who’s trying to predict the future?

      I’ll believe it when I see it, and all of the bravado of all of the Internet strangers isn’t going to suddenly make me “believe“. Just because you can’t tell it’s a fake doesn’t mean others won’t be able to discern the difference. 

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        10 months ago

        I’m only describing the present. You’re the one saying you’ll always always always be able to tell. Feel free to test that bravado, internet stranger.

        The simple fact is, we don’t understand intelligence, and we keep being wrong about how much can be faked. Sometimes by underestimating ourselves - sometimes by overestimating ourselves. We do all this civilization nonsense with three pounds of electrified meat. Some parts, even important or popular parts, can be very formulaic. People have been generating so-so sheet music since an electric calculator was an investment. Now we’re talking about direct audio output of dead singers with new lyrics from dead writers. No kidding it’s flawed. But it’s already jawdropping when it works properly, and there is no reason to imagine this rush of progress will suddenly stop.

        Really, say that out loud: “this is the best technology will ever be.”

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          10 months ago

          lol, tough guy talk from internet strangers only impresses children on Xbox live.

          The only fact here is that you’re defending your opinion with nothing more than bluster and vagueness because of something you already admitted and keep admitting: you don’t know, so this equivocation between that and your determinism that something - anything - is certain to happen is not only disingenuous, it’s absurd.

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            10 months ago

            I’m not convinced you’d recognize yourself in a mirror.

            You’re aggressively dismissive of cocksure predictions… which you’re doing, and I’m not.

            You’re incensed by language making disagreement personal… which you used, and I only turned around.

            You think “I don’t know” is damning failure, but “you don’t either” is somehow contradictory.

            You are the one certain of what’s going to happen.

            That is somehow not the most absurd part of this conversation.

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              10 months ago

              Now you’re resorting to personal attacks and “I know you are but what am I?” along with more contradictions without a hint of irony.

              Do you often find this approach successful when the bloviating and juvenile attempts at intimidation don’t work?

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                  10 months ago

                  Yeah, you’re not going to find much success with that here, either.

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                    10 months ago

                    Success is impossible. You’re not listening to yourself and you don’t care what words mean.

                    Meanwhile, keep an eye on this rapidly-changing technology, and try not to act surprised if your absolute certainty turns out to be misplaced.