• balerion@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Hey, tankies, decent countries don’t have to violently suppress their populations and then lie about it. Oh, and socialism is worker ownership of the means of production, not whatever the fuck they’re doing in China.

    (inb4 people assuming I must support the US since I hate China)

    • GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      All states are fundamentally violent, what are you imagining to be a “decent” country where there is no violence by the state?

    • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      decent countries don’t have to violently suppress their populations and then lie about it

      Yeah, “decent” (read: western) countries can just do it and not talk about it because liberals will gladly work on their behalf and deny that it ever happens or deflect to repost lies about global south countries like they do with China.

      A Wikileaks cable from the US Embassy in Beijing (sent in July 1989) also reveals the eyewitness accounts of a Latin American diplomat and his wife: “They were able to enter and leave the [Tiananmen] square several times and were not harassed by troops. Remaining with students … until the final withdrawal, the diplomat said there were no mass shootings in the square or the monument.”

      https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/

      https://www.workers.org/2022/06/64607/

      https://videos.files.wordpress.com/mPSOWUUU/tank-man-2_dvd.mp4

      https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

      Here’s an interesting video that I hope will make you question if Marxist-Leninists are really the ones you should be calling “tankies”: https://files.catbox.moe/rpzgus.webm

      • ATGM 🚀@beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        Ah yes.

        Being against China’s racist genocide is racist.

        China, the imperialist ethno-state, is clearly innocent.

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        1 year ago

        Lol. Thinking some countries have better governments than others is supremacist? Whatever, dude.

        By the way. If there are any countries with decent governments, I don’t know of them. But like. If there were decent countries, they wouldn’t behave like China.

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          Saying “decent countries” clearly has a perverse slip within the thought, the idea of a collective I in the our countries and an objectifying negation of the I in the other group. Basically good ol’ civilisation and barbarians. The same rhetoric you and your people have been using to oppress me and my third world brothers and sisters all around the world. You really think you need to do the missionary work of educating the beasts, don’t you?

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      1 year ago

      Your instance doesn’t federate with the “tankies” so you won’t even see my comment. Who is suppressing who?