Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.
Also, maybe people in this sub haven’t gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players
Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.
Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.
The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public… They have to shift the conversation somehow
idiot takes on there. its stupid ppl say rodrygo and vini only call out racism BCS they have “victim mindset”. but that doesn’t mean rodrygo was an asshole to messi and argentine fans/players. two things can be right at the same time. argenine fans shouldn’t have been racist, and rodrygo should have shut his mouth and contain his impatience.
Of course it is, Brazil are embarrassed and need to deflect from their recent results. They aren’t the Brazil of old but carry themselves with the attitude.
Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it
I mean that had nothing to do with Messi though? Messi didn’t make any racist comments, Messi didn’t ask people to be racist, Messi stood up for his team that’s it…
What the rest of Argentina does isn’t his responsibility right? Why would you blame the captain of the football team for the country to be racist? As for Messi himself I’m pretty sure him and Neymar were as close as brothers, clearly not something you’d see a racist do
And Rodrygo literally started this cause Messi went onto lead his team in protest against their people being beaten up? Did you even see the bleeding guy’s images?
Those racist comments are wrong on so many different levels, but that is not Messi’s fault, in the issue between Rodrygo and Messi, any non biased guy knows it was just Rodrygo being a brat
A 19 year old tennis player or NBA player simply cannot go talk shit to Federer/ LeBron, that’s just being a dick to a legend
No excusing it, but all players are convenient when speaking against racism. I mean, I didn’t see Rodrygo or Vini criticizing their own supporters when they were racist towards Araujo…
Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn’t mean he won’t get into squabbles with opposition players at all.
As a general statement, Rodrygo’s dad is right. It’s just that context doesn’t make the statement look great.
Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved…and you wouldn’t believe me…why is son is involved… Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons… I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match… Definitely right dad…
I will never understand how people hold that moment against him.
Weghorst staring daggers into him from across the room, literally looking like he wants to shank messi in the heart and everyone dog piles in messi for reasonably reacting
No they don’t. Everyone can recognize he’s a good guy off the pitch and very reserved. On the pitch no one has ever claimed Messi to be a morally just angel. He has been hot headed on the pitch on several occasions in the last years and I haven’t seen anyone deny it
The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn’t mean he isn’t spineless.
Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.
Am I wrong? People worship the ground he walks on and go into a blind rage at any criticism of him. He’s the best player of all time but there are some unhealthy relationships people have with him.
It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.
They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).
I think that’s pretty much it. I watch CONMEBOL as a European for our players and ex-players, and because the games are fire, but am a neutral as to countries. (If I were going to cheer for any of the CONMEBOL big three right now, it would probably be Uruguay for Araujo and their interesting project.)
And watching from that perspective, I saw it the same. It looked like a situation where the rational response would be everyone — players and fans of both sides — united in anger against the police and organizers, but of course there are emotions running high and people are people …
Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.
Also, maybe people in this sub haven’t gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players
Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.
Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.
Rodrygo isn’t the first player to be racially abused by Argentina fans.
I never said he was. He got majority of the racial remarks compared to Endrick, Jesus, and Gabriel.
He put a target in his back for racists people to attack him because of what he said.
Both actions don’t make a right nor do they justify either actions. This isn’t a black or what situation, it’s clearly grey.
100% wont be the last either.
It actually makes me like Messi more. I like to see people be passionate and fight for their country.
I would be embarrassed for Messi if he didn’t talk back.
How’s the taste of that robber’ meat you pessidog meat rider?
Lol when people make fun of r/realmadrid they are specifically making fun if weirdos like you
The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public… They have to shift the conversation somehow
Go look at the tales on r/realnadrid. Take a hazmat suit with you.
Most takes on the subs of specific teams are cancer.
And none of them see how cringey it is that a player’s father posts shit like this on Instagram like a wittle baby.
This is literally just regular beef between two footballers from rival countries. They are acting like Messi racially abused Rodrygo himself.
People were genuinely saying he was being racist.
Those man absolutely despise messi with a passion, always see a bunch of real Madrid flairs in messi threads, its actually hilarious.
Jaysus.
Tu primer error fue ir a arr eslash real madrid
Postearon un link al post en r/fulbo. Lamento mi decisión.
idiot takes on there. its stupid ppl say rodrygo and vini only call out racism BCS they have “victim mindset”. but that doesn’t mean rodrygo was an asshole to messi and argentine fans/players. two things can be right at the same time. argenine fans shouldn’t have been racist, and rodrygo should have shut his mouth and contain his impatience.
This doesn’t even get talked about the next day if it was the 90s or 2000s. But the drama monsters must feed.
It’s completely overblown. Stupid by Rodrygo to call them cowards in this situation but typical trash talk. “We’re the champions blah blah blah”.
Of course it is, Brazil are embarrassed and need to deflect from their recent results. They aren’t the Brazil of old but carry themselves with the attitude.
Oh yeah rodrygo suffered racism from half the argentinian population and it is just overblown
cmon just because it is messi you guys are going to ignore what is happening here?
Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it
it has to do with messi, he is conivent with the racism of his countrymen by never speaking agains it
also lol trying to equate calling messi a coward to racism
By your logic Rodrygo is to blame for the Police brutality that Argentina fans suffer everytime they go to Brasil lol
There’s nothing going on here that isn’t normal
I mean that had nothing to do with Messi though? Messi didn’t make any racist comments, Messi didn’t ask people to be racist, Messi stood up for his team that’s it… What the rest of Argentina does isn’t his responsibility right? Why would you blame the captain of the football team for the country to be racist? As for Messi himself I’m pretty sure him and Neymar were as close as brothers, clearly not something you’d see a racist do
And Rodrygo literally started this cause Messi went onto lead his team in protest against their people being beaten up? Did you even see the bleeding guy’s images?
Those racist comments are wrong on so many different levels, but that is not Messi’s fault, in the issue between Rodrygo and Messi, any non biased guy knows it was just Rodrygo being a brat
A 19 year old tennis player or NBA player simply cannot go talk shit to Federer/ LeBron, that’s just being a dick to a legend
Was Messi racist? Is he culpable for the actions of his countrymen?
he is conivent, he never speaks agains racism, even when his country always does this shit
Sorry, please try that again in intelligible language, I don’t know what “conivent” is.
No excusing it, but all players are convenient when speaking against racism. I mean, I didn’t see Rodrygo or Vini criticizing their own supporters when they were racist towards Araujo…
I think most people do treat Messi that way though.
Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn’t mean he won’t get into squabbles with opposition players at all.
As a general statement, Rodrygo’s dad is right. It’s just that context doesn’t make the statement look great.
Typical madrid take
Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved…and you wouldn’t believe me…why is son is involved… Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons… I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match… Definitely right dad…
Read the full thing. That’s only a small part of what I was saying.
Rodrygo started the fight, but surely his father is right lol. Messi should have apologized to rodrygo after being called a coward.
“yeah, my son called you a coward after your people was getting beaten the shit out of them, you should apologize”
“que mira bobo?”
I will never understand how people hold that moment against him. Weghorst staring daggers into him from across the room, literally looking like he wants to shank messi in the heart and everyone dog piles in messi for reasonably reacting
No they don’t. Everyone can recognize he’s a good guy off the pitch and very reserved. On the pitch no one has ever claimed Messi to be a morally just angel. He has been hot headed on the pitch on several occasions in the last years and I haven’t seen anyone deny it
The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn’t mean he isn’t spineless.
Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.
Kante as well
Meh
Am I wrong? People worship the ground he walks on and go into a blind rage at any criticism of him. He’s the best player of all time but there are some unhealthy relationships people have with him.
Nah.
People criticize players for going to Saudi but they barely say anything about Messi being the face of Saudi tourism
Please explain for me what actually happened. I have seen reports about crowd trouble also, is this connected?
It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.
They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated! I assume you are Argentinian? Is there an alternative perspective or is this the general feeling?
I think that’s pretty much it. I watch CONMEBOL as a European for our players and ex-players, and because the games are fire, but am a neutral as to countries. (If I were going to cheer for any of the CONMEBOL big three right now, it would probably be Uruguay for Araujo and their interesting project.)
And watching from that perspective, I saw it the same. It looked like a situation where the rational response would be everyone — players and fans of both sides — united in anger against the police and organizers, but of course there are emotions running high and people are people …
Lol he didn’t even insult Rodrygo. All he said was “world cup”. He’s not responsible for his idiot fans.
Tbf I do think that anyone not named messi would have gotten a straight red for putting their hands around another player’s neck like that
Mate, that happened before the game started.
Mexican players do that all the time in the USMNT/MEX match up so I doubt it.