• Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Whelp, if you can’t convince people to get a vaccination for a virus that killed millions, you won’t convince people that giving up their guns will reduce their chance of getting killed.

    I think a lot of people are convinced that there would be less crime overall if more people had guns and cc permits. But I bet if some wealthy philanthropist set up a foundation to subsidize affordable guns and ammo for low income families and immigrants there would probably be a lot more political will to regulate firearms.

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      1 year ago

      This is a rare and rational take. Thank you.

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      1 year ago

      you won’t convince people that giving up their guns will reduce their chance of getting killed.

      Because it won’t. This has been proven time and time again. Reducing guns doesn’t reduce violence.

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        1 year ago

        The point of reducing gun availability isn’t to reduce instances of violence, it’s to reduce the carnage after it. The force multiplying effect of a knife is significantly less than most guns.

        If we assume people are violent and dangerous, then we should limit the damage they can do.

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          1 year ago

          If thsr were true, would we not see significantly higher rats of homicide and the like when guns are more prevalent? Or even any notable change whatsoever?

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            1 year ago

            We do see that trend though. Compare the homicide rates of the U.S. with European countries.

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              1 year ago

              Ahh, yes. Because there’s absolutely zero other differences between countries. If you had a valid point and not just bullshit, countries like Switzerland and Finland would be the murder capitals of Europe and not some of the safest, no?

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                1 year ago

                You’re the one who asked this question:

                If thsr were true, would we not see significantly higher rats of homicide and the like when guns are more prevalent?

                To which the answer is yes, we see significantly high rates of homicide where guns are more prevalent.

                If you had a valid point and not just bullshit, countries like Switzerland and Finland would be the murder capitals of Europe and not some of the safest, no?

                So you’re saying we should move our gun law to be closer in line with those two countries? I agree! Let’s start by instituting Finland’s requirement for a gun license to be able to own a gun.