I myself am really on the fence about this.
I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.
But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.
Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?
Spez is doubling down. He’s shown his hand. He’s lied. It’s like watching Anakin’s descent to the dark side. He’s too far gone.
I don’t really think there is a going back. The watering hole is poisoned. There’s no more good faith. And, I think for a lot people, especially people here, it’s a matter of principle at this point.
I might check in on certain niche subs that don’t move on to other platforms, but the days of gleefully doomsctolling are over.
IMO the response was even worse than the initial change. That is what put it over for me.
The response killed Reddit for me. No way am I going back to a website run by such a nasty excuse for a person.
Pretty much. I’m not going to pretend I’ll never use/view reddit again, but it’ll be little more than something like stackoverflow, where if they have the specific information I’m looking for I’ll visit, but I’ll likely not return to the “homepage”, or not with any frequency.
Fuck spez. Even if they reversed their decision, they have made it very clear how much they will take control if they don’t get their way. They have repeatedly mistreated the mods, devs, and community. They slandered a man with lies that could end his career because of why? To gain social points?
Spez has shown what reddit really is and I am done
My sentiments exactly. I wonder what it’s like for the reddit staff to work with such a gaslighting, condescending and deceitful boss.
We owe the Apollo dev a lot for shining a bright light at the leadership of reddit and specifically /u/spez.
I never even used Apollo (I’m on Android) and that BS with Christian left a godawful taste in my mouth. Can’t support reddit after that, much less after all the other news came out.
Spez should really have just shut his mouth.
I don’t plan on going back to Reddit in a major way. After giving Reddit up, I find myself thinking over my experience on that site for the last few years. Engaging commentary was harder and harder to find, particularly in any sub of sufficient size, and I spent a lot of my scrolling through Reddit angry. Leaving Reddit has been a wake up call for me. It’s a rat race on Reddit, and I don’t need that in my life anymore.
Up until 3rd party app devs announced they’re converting their apps to Lemmy? Yes.
Now, absolutely the fuck not. Reddit is a cesspool compared to when I first joined in 2013. Lemmy feels a lot more like reddit did then. It’s quaint and cozy here. Yes I’d like to see this place grow some more. But 1/10th the size of reddit would be plenty. Most reddit users don’t contribute anything useful anyways so no loss there.
The culture is so different. I’m glad Reddit made space for so many different people. But the changes to make it more ad friendly sucks. Also seeing pop culture stuff reach the top regularly is annoying I don’t care about celebrities.
I think reddit model should be as a non profit org., something like wikipedia. No ads, no selling or trying to monetize user data, or being hostage to its investors whims. That would require a complete change of management. Only then I would think about going back.
No.
Way too much trust has been lost for me to even consider going back to that place.
Even if they completely remove and ban Steve Huffman and his family, fiends or even acquaintances from any and all company and/or subcontracted positions, completely overhaul all their positions and replace them with trustworthy people (sucks to be them, but they know what they’re getting into), add all the requested features overnight including and especially the accessibility features… I still won’t consider going back to them.
They will need to exert a huge amount good faith effort over a span of a decade to earn back my trust, if they’re at all capable of doing things in good faith.
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100% fuck u/spez.
They have messed up pretty badly, and anyone who still trusts them, is wearing a blindfold.
Nope. Not a chance. I have no love for giant corporations, and Reddit has always been particularly shit even by that standard. Say what you want about the evils of Meta / Google / Apple, ETC ETC ETC, but at least they generally try to keep their users happy, or at least using their platforms. Reddit just seem to have absolutely no idea what their users want half the time, Reddit premium anyone? The way they handled, or rather failed to handle, the accessibility issue also leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth.
sadly… yes. I’m just not finding the community here that I built up there over 11 years. I know, I know, give this 11 years and we’ll get there, too… but it’s still over there.
I did the whole “delete all comments and posts and replace with the API reasoning text” thing, for my main and my few alts. BUt I find I still am heading over there on browser through old.reddit and lurking.
Same. I might stick around both for a while and see how it goes since I see big benefits and big drawbacks on both platforms. Same idea as why I use Plex instead of Jellyfin in that as much as I want to support open source projects, and am willing to pay a moderate amount to do that, the commercial platforms usually just have a better finish and feature set, as well as a simpler interface for people that don’t live in the tech world.
That said, there’s maybe a dozen subreddits that I really care about, so if those communities came over I’d probably follow. Most of those aren’t populated by the kinds of tech enthusiasts that are looking for an open-source/distributed/etc. model, they’re people that just want to be able to talk about their niche hobbies or connect with others in their industry, regardless of what the back-end looks like. Honestly, I’d even be okay paying a reasonable amount to stick with Reddit(as it was last month, maybe not as it is today), it sounds like they just need to be more open to finding a solution that’s reasonable for the third party app developers instead of just laying down the hammer and them plugging their ears. Problem there though is I suspect the people that I like to engage with on Reddit aren’t the ones making a big impact on Reddit’s revenue. I suspect Reddit can go ahead and lose those high engagement users and still make bank on ad impressions from front-page lurkers, and that’s why they’re not looking to play ball.
I’m done. I moderated a very small, niche hobby sub for a bit over three years. The size and niche-ness kept it fairly well insulated from the worst online behaviors, but it’s been shifting this year. I have been seeing more and more users posting to the sub for the first time, simply pushing their content creator/influencer material on Insta and Youtube. Their posts are only vaguely related to the sub topic, and they never stick around to have meaningful conversations in the comments of their posts. When they violate the sub rules, I have a policy of warning once and removing only if they don’t respond within 24 hours. But even with a 24 hour warning, people get NASTY.
I modded the community for the benefit of others. With the shift in sub demographics and reddit sweeping my legs out from under me in terms of mod tools that allow me to keep control of the sub, I’m done. I can’t keep it shaped into the community the original members want. They’re frustrated. I’m frustrated. It’s no longer fun or fulfilling. Someone who wants to keep the sub aligned with the wants of the new content creator/influencer demographics are welcome to it. Personally, I think a sub of people advertising their channels elsewhere is worthless.
No. This latest monetization grab has exposed a lot of wrongs with Reddit and the way that its employees and owners think. It fundamentally makes us question how the modern web was taken from the people.
If anything, the past two weeks of Lemmy proves that individual and community ownership of the Internet is not completely dead. It doesn’t have to be the same four or five companies owning everything on the Internet. There is a better way.
I think Reddit is permanently harmed. The numbers of comments on posts have dropped in every sub. People will be wary of posting quality content there anymore because it’s going to be owned by, and monetized by Reddit. Nobody wants to provide free labor for someone else to copyright and make millions. The quality posters are gone, back to their specialty forums or chat groups. The people who stayed behind are the low hanging fruit and probably not worth discussing anything with.
This was Reddits Slashdot moment.
The annoying this is that it didn’t need to go down like this!
- If they had announced fairer pricing it wouldn’t be a problem
- If they had announced more than 30 days notice it would have been less of a problem
- If they had announced that you needed Reddit premium to use the API it would have made them more money and not be a problem!
- If the AMA wasn’t a train wreck and they had at least given some concessions then it wouldn’t have been a problem.
This entire thing was bungled from conception to announcement to execution, if they had worked with the third party app devs, if they had communicated clearly, if that hadn’t come off as money grabbing, personal data selling ass holes then none of this would have been a problem.
As it is though, they can just get fucked.
What did slashdot do wrong? I wasn’t up on the lore, I just thought they decided to be a bit more moderated, which even though I would want to participate in a place that is a little more open to broader content, I can respect the decision.
It was another attempt at monetizing a website about 10 years ago. Slashdot got bought out by a company that was one of the online job hunting firms. And then the site was redesigned with more ads on it, sponsored articles, so the original owners cashed out, and the new ownership tried to use the Slashdot branding on various different types of media. They tried to monetize the user base, not realizing that the user base was Slashdot and not the other way around.
Slashdot community forked the site a few different places since the original Slashcode was FOSS. Many left and went to Reddit; and in about two years the new owners divested the Slashdot branding. Slashdot was effectively dead, and if you go back now, the comments on articles are in the dozens and not thousands like it was before the takeover.
Reddit is no longer showing on my computer. Something about /etc/hosts. Can’t imagine how that happened.
I installed a Firefox extension that redirects any reddit.com link to my Lemmy instance.
I installed a Firefox extension that redirects any reddit.com link to my Lemmy instance.
…Do you have a link to that extension?
I was on Reddit 15 years and recently have been considering getting off the platform for other various reasons. All of the recent developments were just the final thing to push me to actually leave.
This was me, too. I was actively looking for alternatives already, this whole debacle just provided enough of a community on those alternatives for it to feel like a worthy time to switch. There’s nothing that will get me to go back at this point.
Same, but 14 years. Had followed mastodon some and read up on activity pub, but meanwhile I never used Twitter and liked how reddit reminded me of forums and bbs/usenet/email listservs before that.
I definitely see how lemmy is rough around the edges, and I’m sure that will cause issues with any sort of mass long term reddit exodus, but personally I’m loving the experience, the dev community, the underlying philosophy, etc. & at least for the communities I’ve been following that decently high barrier to entry has uplifted most of the discussion (albeit while kneecapping niche or local or whatever discussion entirely because there isn’t a community for it)
Nope, I’ve already deleted all of my comments and posts on a 10+ year old account. They can go straight to hell. Fuck them.
