The VA can’t even handle veteran care properly, this is just kicking veterans while they’re down.

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    I want universal health care, but I’ve seen other examples of government healthcare, like the VA, and it is absolute trash, and for that reason I think UHC in America would be a really bad idea.

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      This is the reason obstructionism works. The VA sucks because it’s not funded, because some people in our politics keep voting against it, among other things. This bolsters their own argument that “you must keep health care private, because look how bad government healthcare is”

      You can’t point at half-assed things that were intentionally neutered and then claim it’s evidence a more comprehensive solution wouldn’t work

      Also Medicare is great. All the senators and house reps love it.

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        Whats to say that universal health care wouldnt be intentionally neutered?

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          Medicare is self neutering. Most decent doctors won’t take it. That’s why we need to increase the payout to be reasonable. Anyone who says the VA is bad, mostly like has never used the VA. It’s mixed. Location changes the VA considerably. I just don’t use it because I have good insurance.

          Many of my friends use it and they are happy with it.

          Where you live makes a huge difference.

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          Yall need to stop neutering it, that’s the whole point.

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          Because in order to get UHC at all you have to get rid of the obstructionists first ;D Until then, you’re not actually getting UHC

          ETA: if you’re already starting with the assumption that extreme corruption is inevitable in any and all systems regardless of attempts at mitigation then there’s no point in anything, as everything will always end in corruption and it becomes “pick your preferred flavor of hell”.

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      VA is hit or miss. I rarely ever use it. I’d never use it for surgery. If you just need a script, it’s a decent option but my insurance has cheap scripts. I want an Australian system. Universal care with a private option. The best of both worlds.

      Our current system is stupid. The people most likely to need healthcare are people without jobs and our insurance is tied to jobs. We could make workers more productive with a national plan.