• NeuromancerM
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    7 months ago

    Moving to another state where they’ll be appreciated. It’s been interesting to watch companies move to the south to avoid the politics of the north.

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      Vise versa is also true. A number of companies are covering moves for employees who want to get out of states with laws the employees believe put them at personal risk.

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        You have an example of a company moving an HQ or factory? I have not. I’ve only seen blue to red. A lot have moved to Texas.

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          No, but I have experienced companies already rooted in Blue states paying to move their employees if they want to relocate for political reasons. They’re also working with insurance companies to expand coverage areas, covering personal travel costs, and allowing extra time off if people have to travel outside of the state they live in to get care they need.

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            Moving a few employees is much different than moving thousands of jobs and millions in revenue.

            Blue States are losing a lot of good paying jobs. Oracle moved their HQ to Florida. Tesla is building new factories in Texas. New York is losing many income earners.

            Yeah I get a few dozen people moved from a red state to a blue state but the trend is companies are moving south.

            https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3854794-the-new-red-wave-is-already-here/amp/

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              Respectfully, neither company is known for treating their employees very well.

              Under the hood of moves like this are a number of things that are favorable to the company at the cost of the individual. Business/tax laws are certainly favorable to the organization, there is no denying that. Cost of labor is lower, as well; these companies are counting on a percentage of people not being able to move and then replacing them with local, cheaper labor. Any employees that are relying on those companies for Visa sponsorship have little-to-no recourse for theses types of decisions and risk losing their status if that aren’t willing to relocate.

              I don’t deny companies are moving to states like Texas and Florida and you’d be wrong to deny and ignore individuals who can are leaving those states at a higher-than-normal rate.

              If you look at metro areas people are leaving this year, USPS data says Austin is 5th. Houston is 1st. Close to 20% of technologiest who moved to Texas during the pandemic not only regret their decision, but are looking to leave AND are citing fear for themselves and/or their families as why.

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                That’s because Austin is run by democrats and the crime is rampant.

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                  My mistake; I should have been more specific. The fear for themselves and/or their family members was related to the political climate and inability to get healthcare.

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              Oracle moved their HQ to Florida.

              As a software dev, good riddance. Yall can have oracle.

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                  My guy, that’s like judging the military industrial complex by how satisfied Raytheon shareholders are. Yeah, no shit the people making bank from it like oracle. But as a whole, they tend to be extremely anti-consumer and generally shitty. So for those of us who work with stuff oracle does, it’s really annoying

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                  More so, why wouldn’t you want them paying taxes to provide for your city/state?!?

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                I mean, fair, Oracle is greedy af, but they do represent a lot of jobs, and they arent in a vaccuum either.

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                Yes, thousands of jobs and billions in revenue are worth leaving. smh

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                  You don’t know how to take a joke.

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            Pizza, the entire thread’s context is about a company moving their factory.

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              And Bandit’s claim was “companies are covering moves for employees” so holding them to the claim of “companies moving their HQ or factories” is bad faith.

              It’s called moving the goal posts.

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            THat is what the article is about. How to say you didn’t read the article

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              It’s not the claim Bandit made. Learn to figure out what people are saying instead of putting words in their mouth. You have an awfully hard time keeping track of conversations.

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                  What claim did Bandit make? What claim are you trying to hold them to?

                  I’ll give you a hint, they’re two different claims, and that’s called moving the goal posts.

                  And you don’t like that you got called out for it, so you’re just complaining something else.