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Like Firefly, but ruined by Kevin Sorbo (fuck that washed up POS)
I don’t like Sorbo either but him being present in the thing doesn’t make the thing bad.
Hercules is still a good show, despite his Tweets.
Did he actually ruin Andromeda, or is it more of a “he’s in it so I don’t wanna watch it now” thing?
Edit: Oh. He really did ruin the show. Well. Carry on then.
The original showrunner eventually posted how he intended the story to go. It’s a fun quick read about the better show that never got made:
Thanks for the info.
I remember the show getting worse with time, but I wasn’t enough of a fan to seek out the gossip.
The only thing I like that involves him is that Lucy Lawless calls him “peanut”.
Why? I mean, he looks like one, but why?
He is nothing but a Trump Christofascist troll on Twitter. Nobody will touch him (other than Left Behind/God’s Not Dead series). The only value he has is getting entertainingly owned by Lucy Lawless.
How have I never seen Xena destroying Hercules. Can you post a link to this greatness?
As far as I’m concerned, being called “boy Xena” is an enormous compliment, and Sorbo is far from worthy.
Man Kevin Sorbo is such a fucking douche. That was great, thanks for the entertainment!
Regarding just Andromeda, I’m going to clip some text from wikipedia.
Controversy erupted in the midst of the second season, when series developer and executive producer Robert Hewitt Wolfe announced he had been released from the show’s production […] The reason for the change was purportedly to make the show more episodic and open to casual viewing.
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In discussion on his website’s forums and various interviews, Wolfe has elaborated that he was released from the production staff after he refused to shift the show’s focus more heavily onto Kevin Sorbo’s character, Dylan Hunt, by essentially making all of the show’s episodes as Hunt-centric.
After that Sorbo become an executive producer on the show. The longer running plots set up by Wolfe were dropped and replaced by episodic low brow Hercules In Space stories. Looking at the quoted text above, it’s clear that’s exactly what the network wanted. Louder, dumber, and cheaper content to fill afternoon rerun time slots. Sorbo isn’t exactly an innocent actor caught up in show with a management dispute, since he was the one who ended up getting Wolfe’s job.
To be fair to Kevin Sorbo, he did tank Kevin Sorbo’s career. So he’s not all bad.
Thank you, that explains a lot.
Because he is a complete loony extreme right-wing intolerant christian fanatic POS.
I used to like Andromeda, but now I can’t stand the sight of him as Dylan Hunt.
I dunno. Those may not be completely airbrushed in, but there’s certainly some contouring going on.
Yeah you’re right. Even in his prime he doesn’t had muscles on his muscles like a real demi-god.
Much like that “last man standing” guy
Dylan Hunt… Sounds like cockney rhyming slang… And it’s so appropriate.
Read his tweets: he’s a bigot, Bible-thumping, anti-trans & anti-gay, Christofacist, Trump dick-rider, MAGA retard.
Which has been are we talking about? I got distracted looking at pics of the actresses.
Sorry, not sure why Kbin didn’t correctly attribute the proper thread. I was referring to Sorbo.
He got political, so if your against his politics you hate him because no one separates the art from the artist anymore. He was never really much more than a B list TV actor anyway so most people just don’t even care.
It’s completely ok to say “I really liked the thing, but I just can’t watch it because I can only see the actor behind the character”. If I found out someone punched puppies in their spare time, I would find it really hard to enjoy the things they are in. I don’t think it has to be any different with an actor who’s political stance you are vehemently against.
Honestly, the only reason I watched it despite knowing about Sorbo is that he’s just so damn goofy that I can’t take him seriously. It’s not like he actually can affect anything. Mostly he just makes shitty Christian movies. I don’t know, it somehow feels different from Kirk Cameron. Cameron feels like he’s preying on people. Sorbo just sounds like a doofus. He’s like the MyPillow guy of actors.
A bit of an odd approach to say that a show that 99% of people don’t know exists shouldn’t be Gene’s legacy. Seems like it’s just more likely to make people know about. A Space Streisand effect.
While it was not the masterpiece that Cleopatra 2525 was, the first season is kind of a look at some interesting ideas. It was written, developed, and produced by Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who had been a writer on Deep Space 9 for five years. I’m not going to say that first season is as good as DS9, but it is interesting looking at Roddenberry’s unfinished notes filtered through the sensibilities of a DS9 writer. Once Wolfe got pushed out by Sorbo and the network executives scummy maneuvering, the show turned into the dumpster fire that it is known as, at least among the people who know it exists in the first place.
I liked it in the beginning, and had a crush on
Wolfeedit: Woolvett back in the day. He was a cutie.Sorbo ruined it.
Do you mean Woolvett? Wolfe was the writer/producer.
lol, yes I did
Cleopatra 2525
I was around in 2000s and never heard of this. I blame society.
No one’s fault but your own for being 5 centuries early.
Dude, it was awesome at the time. Terrible and awesome.
I’m afraid to watch it now and ruin the memory.
Cryogenically frozen after a boob job may be the most underused trope of the 1990s.
They did this weird thing where they interspersed an episode of that with an episode of Jack of All Trades, IIRC.
Jack of All Trades,
Had to look that up. Bruce Campbell as a spy/superhero? How could I have missed that one?
I actually liked Andromeda, although a lot of the acting was just terrible. But I always enjoy Lexa Doig and Gordon Michael Woolvett as Seamus was fun.
But my god, the smugness just pours off of Kevin Sorbo.
I don’t remember much about the show, but I do remember there was a distinct tone shift in, I want to say, season 2 that made me go from “skeptical but willing” to “WTF is this bullshit?”
That’s the moment. When the supporting alien character turns from purple to gold is pretty much when Wolfe left the show.
This explains a lot. I wondered why it went from watchable to I wonder what else is onable.
#notmyHercules
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Damn right!
Good looks outside can’t mask the ugly person inside, that is Kevin Sorbo.
Honestly? I think he’s ugly.
I think he thinks he’s beautiful.
I so enjoyed his appearance in God of War III!
The Andromeda ship was such a cool design, one of my favorites.
And I remember really enjoying season 1 of Andromeda in college, while also recognizing that it wasn’t really a “good” show
He was like the third Dylan Hunt in Gene’s Book?
But damn was it fun but also confusing. Especially in the later seasons with the Sun’s Avatar.
I think the Dylan Hunt casting had a downward trend.
Alex Cord in ‘Genesis II’ >> John Saxon in ‘Planet Earth’ >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Sorbo in ‘Andromeda’
Although all the blond women leads - Mariette Hartley; Diana Muldaur and Lisa Ryder respectively - were all better actors than the content they were given to work with.
If I had to pick a Dylan Hunt, I’d pick John Saxon. But then I like John Saxon a lot. And Diana Muldaur.
I’d say that I like the more intellectual, scientist version of the character in Genesis II.
But as with The Cage and the network’s reaction to Jeffrey Hunter’s original Captain Pike and the push for ripped shirts and fight scenes with Shatner, Roddenberry was pushed to get an actor with a more military, action hero vibe for his second attempt with Planet Earth.
My choice is purely because I really like John Saxon.
I can see that. As a Canadian, I found he projected an image that was too ‘All American’ and less interesting than Alex Cord.
She is hotter tho
So hot that I watch the lifetime channel.
Part of why I loved every episode of Stargate she was in, smokin!
I always preferred Claudia Black. She had that twinkle in her eye.
I don’t know, she doesn’t have that same “let me talk to your manager right now or I’ll throw this burrito at you” look.
That’s why I recognize the name! 🤦♂️
I keep seeing “Andromeda” pop up as a movie and thinking “I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that” but then don’t recognize the description. Because I remember this show, not that movie!
I gotta find this shit and watch it again. I haven’t seen it since it was new.
