• taanegl@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    Germans are confused. They don’t want to be anti-semitic, for obvious reasons, but at the same time are so detached they cannot see the parallels between how the nationalist nazi party and the current Isreali government.

    We have secret police, kidnappings, separate prisons with own interrogation, civilians are tried as soldiers and they are literally performing pogroms to take over land.

    The issue here is of course that a bunch of old dottering liberals are sitting behind the wheel, checking their turn signals and adjusting their glasses, incapable of seeing they just hit a deer. It doesn’t hurt that they too probably believe Palestinians should just up and disappear, because it would be politically convenient.

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      Germans are confused. They don’t want to be anti-semitic, for obvious reasons, but at the same time are so detached they cannot see the parallels between how the nationalist nazi party and the current Isreali government.

      We absolutely can see that. The question is whether the government spending its days publicly calling the Israeli government (proto-)fascist does any good, or whether keeping our extensive connections to all levels of Israeli politics and society alive and preach the old song of “violence and aggravation ain’t going to bring you peace” isn’t a much more fruitful approach.

      We have secret police, kidnappings, separate prisons with own interrogation, civilians are tried as soldiers and they are literally performing pogroms to take over land.

      Have you watched DW lately? Chances are at least some of what you wrote you actually got from there, it’s all over the channel. Did you know that it’s the foreign propaganda outlet of the German federal government? Germany does do its part protecting Palestinians by shining a light on Israel’s actions. Contrast that to many an Arab state which prefers to call Jews devilspawn and simultaneously not give a single fuck about the plight of actual Palestinians.


      See the kicker is that the Staatsräson also means “help Israel avoid going full fascist”: It’d be Israel’s downfall. And sometimes the best you can do when you’re dealing with a choleric is to hug them, in Israel’s case, show the centre and left that you’re on their side – both when it comes to being sick of Benjamin von Papen, but also when it comes to the existence of the state of Israel. That you’re on the side of coexistence.

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      All I read here is: “I am stupid and could not be bothered to open a history book ever. So I am delusionally calling everything I don’t like a pogrom, everyone I dislike a nazi and pretend that I’m a holocaust 2.0 victim. And then I detach myself completely from reality and tell the lie that countries supporting mine for decades and (unlike me) working for a free and independent state actually want to get rid of me. Because how else could I justify my righteous hatred of everyone else?”

      Just fuck off. Delusional rabid morons like you are the problem.

      PS: Nice touch with the “old dottering liberals” in control in Germany btw… Showing that it’s not just history you are lacking in but you just use every term as an insult while obviously not understanding its meaning, really crowns this master piece of stupid narratives.

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        11 months ago

        Uh oh! I made the Zionist ANGWY!! UwU

        The German government is a liberal government (fact), Nazis would chase Jews away in the beginning before sending them to murder factories (fact) and Israel is a colonizer (fact).

        Fuck off back to Netenyahu, and remember to cup his balls when you slob his knob.

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          Oh, so you don’t understand the words colonisation or zionist either and were just conditioned to use them as a random insults. That really fits…

          It would be funny trying to understand what goes on in your propaganda-damaged brain, but I have better things to do with my time.