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      It still flies over the head of a lot of republicans.

      They just don’t know that, it’s practically a direct translation of hitler’s rhetoric- and they’ve never believe it, even if you show them hitler’s massive speeches.

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      That seems a bit harsh, I would have given him at least 10 minus points

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    Why do all of his speeches sound like they were pulled straight from the nazis?

    "Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

    Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist. "

    Oh yeah, that’s why. Thanks vanity fair.

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        “Let me tell you folks, I read. Big words, small words, I read all kinds of words. Hell, I’ve read thousands of words just this morning. They call me the greatest reader of all time, folks. Some of the toughest books, magazines, I read them all. Not like that fool Ron DeSatanist, I bet he hasn’t read a single book in his life. Sleepy Joe? Probably forgot how to read just like he forgot how to be president. But me, I read more than anyone in the world. I am, what some folks call, a “reader”. And that’s why, folks, you can trust me, you can donate to me, because I’m a very smart guy, because I read, you know, smart people, they read. It’s just what I do, I read. Now if you excuse me folks, I’ve gotta go start reading.”

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      I mean he did all but use the phrase “blood and soil.” No surprise he’s copying off shitler’s notes.

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        What did those folks say back at the Unite The Right rally? The one that Trump said had good people on both sides at?

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        He’s literally Dwight from that episode where Jim teaches Dwight how to deliver a speech.

        He isn’t smart enough to know the historical paradigm of dictator’s speeches himself.

        I wanna know who his Jim is.

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          From what I’m reading Hitler was a lifelong passion for Trump. Sure he might not have read it recently, but at one point, even if it’s was 20 years ago, he wasn’t mentally deranged. If he actually did read them “from time to time” over the years, that’s easily a dozen. And usually people remember things better if they find it interesting, so even someone with memory issues would be able to paraphrase and recite something they’ve heard a dozen times, especially if that was their passion.

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      I was thinking exactly the same thing and then I saw your comment. I bet even Trump can’t believe how far he has gotten basically saying the same type of crazy shit Hitler used to say. Trump is really calling to the baser instincts of a disturbingly large group of people.

      It is incredibly dangerous, and so bizarre to witness it happening again, not as a historical narrative, but in real time.

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    I agree with Trump. Ever since the first European settlers came to the North America, the area has been in heavy decline. From polluting rivers to the point where they could be lit on fire, to the last president who was a fascist.

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      You’re full of absolute shit, Europeans were just the peanut on the turd. Ever since proto-Asians crossed Beringia North America has gone to hell, killing the sabertooth tigers and hunting all the really fucking cool megafauna to extinction. There used to be giant sloths here, and sloths are so chill.

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    Trump is racist. Big fucking news. His supporters don’t care about racism. They are racists and they see racism as a good thing.

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        But that’s not new either. We’ve been calling Trump a Nazi for the better part of a decade now. These idiots have spent so much time denying that patently obviously fact, it’s become part of their core identity to deny trump is a Nazi, even as he directly quotes Hitler.

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          We can’t reach his base but we can sure as hell pressure people not in his echo chamber.

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    Do you want hitler, because that’s how you get Hitler.

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      No, he’s not charismatic, not that far from grave and doesn’t have any ideology or potent supporters (like officers, aristocrats).

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        While intelligent people don’t think Trump is charismatic, he is undoubtedly considered to be charismatic by stupid people. He has situational charisma - when he’s ranting about some weird idea that he think his supporters will glom onto he’s considered to be very charismatic despite the written versions of his speeches sounding like the ravings of a man who just met Cthulhu.

        Your other points are 100% though - he is WAY older than Hitler was at his peak, and he has this terrible knack for throwing his sycophantic and powerful supporters under the bus which leaves him lonely in his power. I think he likes it that way.

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    You know who’s not ‘pouring into America’? People with options.

    Unless you’re fleeing the third world, I can’t imagine why America would even be on your radar. He’s obsessing over the wrong problem.

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      So my aunt and her kids fled the war in Ukraine and is living in the French part of Canada. At the time she applied for the US too, and they recently answered so she decided to go to Detroit instead of staying in Canada.

      I’m in Canada and I’m like whyyy???

      But apparently “it’s easier for her kid to become a firefighter there, school and medical care is covered for new immigrants, and she can take classes for herself for cheap too, they don’t have to learn French and the immigration is less strict”.

      Honestly, in part I understand it’s not perfect here, but I highly doubt it’s better there, both situations suck until they get better. I’m just afraid they’re blinded by the “grass is greener on the other side” bs. Because no way is education and medical care is cheap there after a certain amount of time.

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        She should have moved to any one of the other provinces to meet her requirements.

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    “ Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. “

    You know, he may have a point.

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      Two of his three wives are immigrants. His in-laws benefited from chain migration. His third son is an anchor baby. None of his supporters are capable of recognizing these facts.

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        Ha, jokes on you for thinking him and his followers think white immigrants are “immigrants”. They use that word because it’s the only acceptable one, but it’s clearly not what they are referring to.

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      Trump is the son and the heir of a dynasty that is criminally vulgar. He’s the son and heir of nothing in particular.

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    Immigration is one of the best solutions to fix rural America.

    So of course rural Americans are going to be against it.

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        Plenty of space and opportunities for revitalization. All they need are people living there.

        I am 100% in favor of expanding immigration with the stipulation that additional immigrants must live in rural areas.

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto

          Downvoted for this and the parent comment is upvoted for literally wanting immigrants to be segregated. Wtf is wrong with people here…

          From the wiki article: A ghetto is a part of a city in which members of a minority group live, especially as a result of political, social, legal, religious, environmental or economic pressure.

          This is what the parent comment wants, they want immigrants to be legally bound to certain areas within the country. They want immigrants bound to ghettos.

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      Immigration is the the only solution for all of America. The next few generations are going to be smaller than those that preceded them. Unless you’d like to see massive deflation and the economy reduced by a third or more (you don’t) immigrants are the only workable solution. Japan is staring this problem down right now and has chosen xenophobic and racist policies; it is headed for catastrophe and the world will get to watch in the next two decades what refusing large-scale immigration does to a nation with a strong economy and shrinking population.

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        Ireland too iirc, as it became an Alex Jones talking point for a while that someone in Ireland said they needed 4 million immigrants to prevent similar issues. The person was just using that as a measure, and iirc it’s quite a while in the past so not sure if it’s the same today.

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      Why do you think it needs “fixing” anyway? Rural America is great already.

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        It’s not as bad as what people who use the term ‘flyover states’ think.

        It can still be greatly improved, and immigration is the way to do it.

        Just drive through rural America and you’ll see dead town after dead town. Mainstreets with less than 50% of their buildings occupied is the norm.

        It doesn’t have to be this way. On average, each additional person contributing to an economy bolsters it rather than detracts from it.

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          I don’t see unoccupied buildings as a problem to fix. There’s not a necessity for every economy to “boom” - only an economy required to sustain the residents is needed.

          It sounds like you people suggesting these “improvements” don’t understand or appreciate the beauty of life close to nature in low-population rural areas. I don’t want more people to populate my area.

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            That’s cool. A lot of people disagree with you, which is why it’s so cheap to live outside of major cities.

            High supply, low demand. I don’t think Rural America needs to become like Urban America or even Suburban. But to deny that it isn’t decrepit and desolate is just ignoring reality.

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              That’s just your opinion. I love having my own house and land, with no dumbass people making noise and stench all around me. I would not trade it to live in any city in the world.

              What your perspective calls “decrepit and desolate” can also be seen as open and natural. Freedom in its purest sense.

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                No, it’s not “just my own opinion.” I literally opened up with “a lot of people disagree with you, which is why it’s so cheap to live outside of major cities.”

                It’s just your own opinion. Lol. Try not to project onto me.

                These places can be open and natural while still being revitalized. That’s just how much land there is.

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          A question is not an opinion. Did you reply to the wrong comment? Or do you have an answer to my question?

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              Living in it, having a great life with my family, because I was able to afford to buy a home with land (I own several acres of land and a house), very clean air and water, no city stenches or noises.

              All of you city dwellers sound so miserable struggling to pay for life’s basic necessities and I’m out here just relaxing enjoying my contentment in the woods. I have a great job and all my needs are met, along with all the needs of my family.

              I most likely couldn’t achieve any of this except getting a “great job” in the city.

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        Stagnant economies, brain drain, lack of opportunity, drinking water contaminated with farm runoff and/or lead, crumbling infrastructure, and lack of funding for education and other government services.

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          That’s a generalization that only applies to some individual parts of rural America, and quite a lot of the rest of rural America is doing excellently with fine infrastructure, clean air and water.

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    I like most of you Americans, but I don’t wanna share the longest undefended border anymore if that asshole is elected again.

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      Just tell everyone that Alberta is out of oil. No one is going to invade for the maple syrup, despite it being the nectar of the gods.

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          Yup. NAFTA negotiations are coming up shortly and I bet some of our unused pipelines will be looked at to transport fresh water instead of oil.

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            Which might be a good idea. We’ve got the pipes sitting there already, connecting the whole continent. Might as well use them.

            Before someone says it, yes, you can clean out oil pipelines enough to be used for fresh drinking water. It has been done before.

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              I dunno that it’s a good idea. What would the US be willing to pay for that water? I mean if it’s like the pittance water bottlers have been paying, fuck that.

              Would we have restrictions on usage, and limits on how much they can take per year? Like there’s a large chunk of desert that’s growing crops and takes a LOT of water.

              Lots of questions to be answered and logistics to look at first.

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              Why not? It’s a free trade agreement and Canada has known for a long time that America would be looking at our freshwater sources because of their mismanagement.