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    The Kremlin really do everything in their power to be as evil as possible. I know this is ‘just’ a building and that thousands have lost their lives, including one more civilian this time, but why bomb a UNESCO Heritage Site?…

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    So in just the last week the Kremlin terrorists have attacked food, hospital sites, and an apartment building.

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        Damn dude how many times are you going to post in this thread. There are places you would feel more at home. You will get the same response here every time. Try 4chan, voat, truth social, reddit, or one of the defederated right wing communities.

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      Well, that’s the funny thing. If a nation does it, it isn’t considered “terrorism”. If you open that door, then the US gets implicated, too, because they’ve also been involved in terrorist activities. So, it serves US interests to keep the definition narrowly defined to non-state actors.

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      Too chicken shit to do that since its russia. They only do that to small nation they can bully around. If its another superpower, they engage in proxy war and cower behind NATO or other nation such ukraine/hong kong.

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      The US bombed every cathedral in Germany worse than this. This is what happens in war. You should devote your energy to stopping wars, not trying to get them to be “nicer”. War will never be nice.

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        Ah yes, a completely fucking irrelevant comparison.

        Germany was under NAZI RULE. Actively ongoing a genocide, killing tens of thousands every single day.

        There were no precision weapons. It was the 1940s you dumbass.

        If US or UK was in a war today, not one heritage site would be touched. You know why? Because we have precision weapons to hit the enemy.

        Get the fuck out of here with these bitch ass excuses trying your hardest to suck putins dick.

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      Because then you would have to classify every state in the world with an army as one

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    Building is nothing. Human lives is everything. Even one death is more than enough for our bloody “leader” to rot in hell.
    Sincerely yours, Russian fellow.

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      You are right about that. I would add that non-human lives are also valuable. I especially believe animal suffering is terrible, ours and others. We are enough to help humankind and also repair injustices to and help other beings.

      What I wanted to comment is that I felt this image intensely because it is kind of symbolic. It represents the beauty we are capable of, the way we can be brought together by beliefs and dreams, all destroyed by greediness, selfishness, and unnecessary violence. It is tragic. It is not the value of the building itself, which is debatable, but this I explained.

      Sorry if my English is weird.

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    If the world ever goes to war on Russia, let this be a reminder of how low the bar stands when we’re shoving their own medicine down their throats

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      They dont make that link. They have been using cluster ammo for 18 months now but cry since Ukraine has started to use it as well. Pathetic little mindset these people have.

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        The cluster munition attack with the highest known civilian casualties occurred on April 8, 2022, when Russia launched a Tochka-U ballistic missile equipped with a cluster munition warhead at a crowded train station in the eastern city of Kramatorsk as hundreds of people were trying to leave the area. A detailed Human Rights Watch investigation found that the attack killed at least 58 civilians and injured over 100 others.

        Barbaric

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    Very sad. I have been to Odessa often before the 2022 war, and the city was spared major attacks for so long. But I guess that’s over now :(

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      Before the Russian invasion, I’d always thought Ukraine was a beautiful country. Never been to either country, while I did notice similarities in the architecture and culture, they still had distinct enough flourishes that set them apart. Really, destroying holy sites and places of worship is a very dirty move in warfare. Doing such destroys morale. This cathedral looks like an immaculate place to visit while it was in tact. I hope places like it can be restored soon.

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    I don’t really see how this strategically advances any goals. I’m willing to bet it’s a mistake by one side or the other rather than any intent. The target has no value or purpose and makes no sense. Maybe as terror or something but ehhhh

    Are there any images of the missile debris floating around the various telegrams? Would be interested in seeing exactly what weapon it was.

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      Destroying the Ukrainian culture could be one as Poutine’s propaganda is saying that Ukraine is not a real country with a real history but a part of Russia that needs to be recovered.

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            Mainly the part where an attack intended to destroy the building would be very easy but this is just mild damage. I mean that in the sense of it not being catastrophic rather than implying that this occurring to a religious building isn’t upsetting, it’s not a pleasant thing. The point being that when they intend to actually blow stuff up there’s usually very little left over of the targets, which leads me to believe this wasn’t the target.

            Which is why I’m interested in seeing what hit it. I’m surprised there are no photos of the missile debris so far, there are in almost every single other attack as it’s the information that validates a lot of information for international eyes.

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              They could also just use it as a symbol without willing to use more ammunition for a non strategic target.

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                They aren’t using it as a symbol though, blowing up a religious building is not exactly a move that would be popular among russians. Which is why they’re denying that it was Russian munitions and trying to claim that it was Ukrainian anti-air missiles falling back on buildings after trying to shoot down other things. To use it as a symbol you kinda have to say it was you.

                What this will become however is a symbol of reconstruction for Ukraine, which is not at all beneficial to Russia’s strategic interests. Hence why I lean to it being a mistake of some sort. Given the accuracy their missiles have though that’s hard to justify as well, unless it’s not actually the main payload of a missile and is instead one of the earlier stages that gets split, like the fuel tubes sections. This is why actually seeing the missile debris is useful, you can figure out whether it was the target or not based on whether it’s the payload section or some other part of the missile.