This conversation is obviously a waste of time given people are trying to explain what the West actually constitutes and you’re claiming that means those people are racist.
But yes, racism is very much essential to the concept of the West.
croatia is a majority catholic slavic country
You sort of hit the nail on the head there.
This was the portrayal of Germany in WW1, drawing on the ‘asiatic hordes’ imagery (dating back to and before when Europe was getting wrecked by Eurasian people):
essentialist definitions of the west based on racial categories
Yes this is how the West defines itself.
you can ask anyone in the latin america world, which is hundreds of millions of people, and they’ll tell you they’re western due to historic and cultural and religious ties.
I agree entirely.
why even bring up the germany ww1 portrayal thing are you trying to argue that germany wasn’t western until after ww1?
The point is that “Western” is a changing category (for those outside the five eyes anyway) without any rigorously defined criteria. Russia is a good recent example.
your argument against that is because you can imagine some reactionary in america or europe who would disagree?
I don’t need to imagine that, and they do disagree. And the reason why what a reactionary thinks matters is because they are unfortunately have a great deal of power.
The point is that “Western” is a changing category (for those outside the five eyes anyway) without any rigorously defined criteria. Russia is a good recent example.
It’s not a changing category. It’s just Europe.
Within Europe, those borders can change. But nothing outside of Europeans (including European Americans) will ever be treated as “Western”
you can ask anyone in the latin america world, which is hundreds of millions of people, and they’ll tell you they’re western due to historic and cultural and religious ties.
lmao
Clemente: “I’m in the club too amigos!!”
Cletus: cocks shotgun
thousands of people who look like you, who were US citizens, were illegally deported to Mexico by US police. This would never happen to an indigenous inhabitant of an actual Western country, even if they were here illegally. Illegal immigrants from Poland don’t get questioned on the street, while LEGAL US CITIZENS OF MEXICAN DESCENT get illegally deported: does that sound like people who are part of the same bloc to you?
I personally know light skinned US-born Indians, who would “pass” as any Latino ethnicity, perfect US-American accent, who were killed in broad daylight in the rural areas of Missouri and the police purposely ignored it
You are just not western and you never will be. You seem obsessed with being considered part of the west, but the reality is that you just aren’t.
Nobody here is obsessed with race, our enemies are obsessed with race (and they know better than to admit it in public). So we learn quickly
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This conversation is obviously a waste of time given people are trying to explain what the West actually constitutes and you’re claiming that means those people are racist.
But yes, racism is very much essential to the concept of the West.
You sort of hit the nail on the head there.
This was the portrayal of Germany in WW1, drawing on the ‘asiatic hordes’ imagery (dating back to and before when Europe was getting wrecked by Eurasian people):
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Yes this is how the West defines itself.
I agree entirely.
The point is that “Western” is a changing category (for those outside the five eyes anyway) without any rigorously defined criteria. Russia is a good recent example.
I don’t need to imagine that, and they do disagree. And the reason why what a reactionary thinks matters is because they are unfortunately have a great deal of power.
It’s not a changing category. It’s just Europe.
Within Europe, those borders can change. But nothing outside of Europeans (including European Americans) will ever be treated as “Western”
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lmao
Clemente: “I’m in the club too amigos!!”
Cletus: cocks shotgun
this is pretty much how that goes
No we recognize racism exists and are pointing it out to you. You are in denial
thousands of people who look like you, who were US citizens, were illegally deported to Mexico by US police. This would never happen to an indigenous inhabitant of an actual Western country, even if they were here illegally. Illegal immigrants from Poland don’t get questioned on the street, while LEGAL US CITIZENS OF MEXICAN DESCENT get illegally deported: does that sound like people who are part of the same bloc to you?
I personally know light skinned US-born Indians, who would “pass” as any Latino ethnicity, perfect US-American accent, who were killed in broad daylight in the rural areas of Missouri and the police purposely ignored it
You are just not western and you never will be. You seem obsessed with being considered part of the west, but the reality is that you just aren’t.
Nobody here is obsessed with race, our enemies are obsessed with race (and they know better than to admit it in public). So we learn quickly