You say “willingly” coming here to work for money, I say came here in “desperation” only to make enough to survive in poverty. Giving somebody a couple bucks rather than a bowl of soup is the difference between slavery and exploited “employees” given poverty wages.
In *chattel slavery * people are treated like objects, there are other types of slavery with some distinction. A person in a situation due to desperation lacks choice, that’s kinda what desperation means isn’t it? And people with power take advantage of that desperation, while staying within the bounds of law that forbid chattel slavery for non-imprisoned people within the borders of the U.S.
If the group of people causing the desperate situation are also effectively the ones benefiting from their desperation, the difference between this desperate trap that gives you tokens (“pay”) and chattel slavery isn’t all that much, and it’s kinda weird that you are making such a big deal as if you think it’s ok to take advantage of desperate people because it doesn’t fit a strict definition of a specific type of and most extreme form of slavery.
It’s not uncommon for people to be “willing come here to work for money,” then get their paperwork held by their “employer”, payed much less than they were promised, and forced to do labor under the risk of imprisonment and deportation (and, in some cases, such as those found during "Operation Blooming Onion, under gunpoint).
Yeah I think that could qualify. I think of slavery in terms of violence-based coercion, and direct physical control like chains and fences. But what you’re describing is essentially the same thing.
To equate a person that willingly goes to a place then works for money, to a slave, is disrespectful to people experiencing actual slavery.
You say “willingly” coming here to work for money, I say came here in “desperation” only to make enough to survive in poverty. Giving somebody a couple bucks rather than a bowl of soup is the difference between slavery and exploited “employees” given poverty wages.
No, choose is the difference. Slavery is an imprisoned state, where one cannot leave or choose to go other places.
In *chattel slavery * people are treated like objects, there are other types of slavery with some distinction. A person in a situation due to desperation lacks choice, that’s kinda what desperation means isn’t it? And people with power take advantage of that desperation, while staying within the bounds of law that forbid chattel slavery for non-imprisoned people within the borders of the U.S.
If the group of people causing the desperate situation are also effectively the ones benefiting from their desperation, the difference between this desperate trap that gives you tokens (“pay”) and chattel slavery isn’t all that much, and it’s kinda weird that you are making such a big deal as if you think it’s ok to take advantage of desperate people because it doesn’t fit a strict definition of a specific type of and most extreme form of slavery.
It’s not uncommon for people to be “willing come here to work for money,” then get their paperwork held by their “employer”, payed much less than they were promised, and forced to do labor under the risk of imprisonment and deportation (and, in some cases, such as those found during "Operation Blooming Onion, under gunpoint).
Yeah I think that could qualify. I think of slavery in terms of violence-based coercion, and direct physical control like chains and fences. But what you’re describing is essentially the same thing.