https://teddit.zaggy.nl/r/Psychonaut/comments/18mth6c/peyote_is_the_darling_of_the_psychedelics/
Honestly this whole thread is a cesspool, pure psychic damage. There are literally functional alternatives, but still these self-enlightened egolords can’t keep their fucking hands off an endangered plant. The prevailing attitude looks to be “Its there, so I i am entitled to plunder it”
Removed by mod
Sure, but Peyote takes 10-30 years to grow in a very specific climate, and is endangered due to overharvesting. Growing your own is one thing, but exploiting an endangered plant and telling the groups that use it to “Grow it on their own land” is blatant colonizer behavior.
is pandanas an endangered species? the cactus is.
If whitey wants peyote, whitey should grow it on his own land, it’s all stolen anyway.
Removed by mod
deleted by creator
Removed by mod
Indigenous growers know how to harvest the plant safely. The problem comes from colonizers taking the whole plant or clumsily over harvesting and killing it
Tigers also harvest pretty poorly
deleted by creator
there’s also like 50,000 Native Americans in the SW, and 1,300,000,000 Chinese so I think sustainability isn’t an issue
deleted by creator
Mescaline lasts too long anyways
deleted by creator
Edit: apparently I’m 20 minutes late and 4 other people said the same stuff. Oh well.
I think there is more going on than just “it’s ours, you shouldn’t have it” though. Peyote in the US is designated legal for religious use by indigenous people as part of traditional practices only. It’s also extremely slow growing and requires very careful harvesting to keep the plant alive, it’s listed as an endangered species in the wild, explicitly due to over-harvesting.
Basically people using it as a recreational drug can have a very real impact on the legality and availability of the plant for indigenous people.
The people in the OP are not engaging with any of this stuff and treating it simply as culture war, with an attitude of extreme contempt and hostility to the people who they see as potentially stopping them from getting high, which I find pretty gross - regardless of whether you think it’s fair to gatekeep the plant.
Removed by mod
they shouldn’t need a legal exemption but democrats support the war on drugs i guess.