Just leave your politics back in California.

I see that in Oregon as well, moving here because they destroyed California with their politics. My concern is they will move like locusts consuming all the resources and leaving a wasteland behind like they did in California. I can already see where they are starting to do that in Oregon.

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      Cosmic, if you have a better source that says otherwise, then use that. Just saying ““fox news”” is just lazy

      Rule 3, just a friendly warning.

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        The only good news source to such folks is that which parrots their ideology.

        Anything else is “far right” or “biased”.

        More importantly, whatever right-leaning bias Fox used to have was clearly dropped during the 2020 election.

        For our friend who didn’t even bother to read the article and finding the link to the study before being dismissive:

        The study found that Gen Z, which comprises adults between the ages of 18 and 26, is the most mobile generation, with 17% of its members opting to move this year, compared to 8% across all ages.

        Texas welcomed the most Gen Z adults overall, with 345,000 new residents. However, West Virginia saw the highest net gain in Gen Z moves, up 138% year over year.

        Link to the study

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          The only good news source to such folks is that which parrots their ideology.

          Anything else is “far right” or “biased”.

          No, thats not the case. To paraphrase, it’s because fox News has been peddling conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, propaganda, has used poor sources, and has failed numerous fact checks:

          https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

          If you want a good source, go to AP news, Reuters, the hill, BBC, etc. Fox News is a trash source.

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            Here’s the thing. You actually bothered to say something about fox news, claimed that they are a poor source, and backed that up with a citation. Cosmic did not. It’s still just sealioning, and I distrust that citation because they rate CNN as mostly factual, but in any case, you actually put in some work. (And for the record, I understand that you guys distrust fox news. I would point you to the study they cited, and in turn the publicly available census data instead.)

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              I distrust that citation because they rate CNN as mostly factual

              CNN is atrocious for bias, but at least in comparison to say fox news, they’re much more factual. Far, far from perfect, but significantly better.

              I would point you to the study they cited, and in turn the publicly available census data instead.)

              And that’s fine. But that’s not what a link to fox news is.

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          Thx for linking to the study. I couldn’t read the Fox News link…something about a paid article.

          In any case, if it’s true that Gen Z is heading to the red state of Texas by fleeing blue states like California for better living…then what does it mean that the top 5 states being left by Gen Z are Mississippi, Alabama, and Iowa, all of which are red states? Are they fleeing bad Republican policies for marginally better ones?

          Or can we just admit that thinking of people moving to particular areas within large states is reductive and we’re basically not arguing about anything at all? Because though Gen Z may be moving to Texas, they may (I don’t know for sure since it’s not in the study) be moving to more liberal areas of the state. In which, to say they’re leaving California for “better living” is true…but it’s not true in the political sense, merely in the economic.

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          Reading is tough. People on the left like to be told what to think. It is one of the strangest things to me.

          I find it interesting so many people are moving from areas they destroyed with bad politics to areas where their politics are less tolerated.

          It is why I didn’t move to Portland. I knew my politics were different and I didn’t want to fund their disaster. I moved to a more Red town and live in the nicer red part of that city.

          The issue many blue states have is their tax base is moving away. Citadel Financial listed taxes and crime as why they moved their HQ out of Chicago.

          That is why it is like a locust, once they’ve destroyed the blue states, they will try to move to the red states to destroy those.

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    I see that in Oregon as well, moving here because they destroyed California with their politics. My concern is they will move like locusts consuming all the resources and leaving a wasteland behind like they did in California. I can already see where they are starting to do that in Oregon.

    This is emotionally loaded, misleading, and just silly.

    And anybody could just as easily claim Texas has been destroyed by their politics. It’s just a meaningless statement.

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      It isn’t emotional nor misleading. They challenging it.

      People are moving to Texas, Florida and other red states. That’s a fact.

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        they destroyed California

        like locusts consuming all

        leaving a wasteland California.

        they are starting to do that in Oregon.

        These are emotionally loaded terms.

        People are moving to Texas, Florida and other red states. That’s a fact.

        There are people moving to and from all states at all times. Water is wet. Demographics will change. The sky is blue.

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          Those are not emotional. Those are facts.

          Maybe you haven’t kept up. California is having a large exodus. It not business as usual.

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    It seems clear that most young people can’t afford to live in California anymore. This is simply due to a lack of housing. Even as the economy grew, housing didn’t keep pace because of single family zoning (thanks to pro-auto lobbying) and nimbyism.

    No doubt, California sucks now. When I was a kid, there were miles and miles of orchards and farms. They chopped down all the cherry trees, all the orchards, to build the industrial parks of silicon valley. All the fish disappeared from the creeks and streams. I guess old people always complain about how things have changed.

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        Well I think this situation may have come about due to years of the systematic erosion of workers rights and devaluation of labor. People are sttill waiting for that trickle down.

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        The issue is it is very tax advantageous to own property. One way to help fix the problem is to charge a rental fee or disallow tax writeoffs for rental properties. Right now people jump on rentals because the ROI is solid. Reduce the ROI and people won’t look to rentals.

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            If allow a few. As we talked about before, removing the deductions would kill the roi. I would’ve mind a limit of four then you lose the exemption.

            Rentals do provide a benefit to the community in a reasonable number. Corporations owning rentals do not.

            I also think enforcing code is them is critical. Don’t let them turn into slumlords which rental control does.

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    How about you instead focus on something that actually matters:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4369951-young-voters-right-now-prefer-biden-poll/

    Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

    In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

    Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

    The younger generations are voting more and more. And they are seeing through the bullshit.

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      And thanks for trying to change the topic. What does that have to do with California and the locust leaving?