Also helps ensure the drugs are clean. The US marijuana legalization process has absolutely not been perfect but the regime of testing for pesticides and mold is very effective.
If cocaine were legal and regulated you wouldn’t be hearing all these stories of people dying of fentanyl overdoses from doing shitty cut coke.
It does make me wonder where they swiss government will acquire their coke. With weed, it’s fairly easy to grow it wherever you need to, but with coke, you pretty much have to be in certain regions, yeah?
If that’s the case, is this still going to be supporting those same cartels? If more countries legalized, we could maybe hope to see legally grown, harvested, and processed coke without all the slave labor and shit. Could be a real boon for South American countries, too, if the cartels lost power, and the cocoa plantations could be nationalized.
I just woke up, so I may be just talking out my ass, though
I’m honestly totally ignorant to whether they can be grown indoors at scale outside of their normal growing region, but that’s a good point to bring up.
If you go to Peru, you can buy coca leaf tea, grown by legitimate companies, sold entirely legally. It’s amazing for adjusting to high altitudes, if you ever go to the Andes, I highly recommend you drink the tea.
There’s huge illegal growing operations, but there’s legal ones. It’s not that hard to grow - I think it likes high altitudes and moisture, but although it’s not as easy to grow as “weed”, I’m pretty sure it’s easier than coffee
Not gonna lie I would love to have access to that tea. The powder is great and all but it makes me twitchy and I really only enjoy it on a night out while also drinking. I could see myself using the tea for long work sessions etc.
Yeah, drinking a large amount of liquid is what I’d call “leg work”. You can’t just do a bump or smoke something, you have to pace your tea intake… Much harder to overdose or go on a bender
The coca tree is a high altitude tropical plant that isn’t very cold tolerant. Having a look at the plant hardiness zones in Europe, parts of southern Italy, Greece, coastal Portugal or Spain might be suitable for cultivation. It’s been a while since I looked into it but people have been attempting to breed cultivars that are tolerant of low altitude conditions as well. With public research and funding it would likely be possible to produce cultivars that are more suitable for coastal Europe. That’s if it’s even the best way to go.
I’m for total legalization of recreational drugs and I think it’d be a pretty shitty thing to just tell south amarica “fuck you, we’ll make our own” considering the catastrophe caused by the war on drugs in those countries
Living in Vancouver, I’ve learned that a LOT of people purposely use fentanyl as it augments their high, the problem is its INCREDIBLY powerful, so if you fuck up the amount you take by even a tiny amount, it can lead to an overdose. So I’m not sure if legalization will solve the fentanyl overdose side of the problem
Also helps ensure the drugs are clean. The US marijuana legalization process has absolutely not been perfect but the regime of testing for pesticides and mold is very effective.
If cocaine were legal and regulated you wouldn’t be hearing all these stories of people dying of fentanyl overdoses from doing shitty cut coke.
It does make me wonder where they swiss government will acquire their coke. With weed, it’s fairly easy to grow it wherever you need to, but with coke, you pretty much have to be in certain regions, yeah?
If that’s the case, is this still going to be supporting those same cartels? If more countries legalized, we could maybe hope to see legally grown, harvested, and processed coke without all the slave labor and shit. Could be a real boon for South American countries, too, if the cartels lost power, and the cocoa plantations could be nationalized.
I just woke up, so I may be just talking out my ass, though
Coca, not cocoa…
Good catch. I genuinely don’t know if that was me or autocorrect 😄
I’m honestly totally ignorant to whether they can be grown indoors at scale outside of their normal growing region, but that’s a good point to bring up.
If you go to Peru, you can buy coca leaf tea, grown by legitimate companies, sold entirely legally. It’s amazing for adjusting to high altitudes, if you ever go to the Andes, I highly recommend you drink the tea.
There’s huge illegal growing operations, but there’s legal ones. It’s not that hard to grow - I think it likes high altitudes and moisture, but although it’s not as easy to grow as “weed”, I’m pretty sure it’s easier than coffee
Not gonna lie I would love to have access to that tea. The powder is great and all but it makes me twitchy and I really only enjoy it on a night out while also drinking. I could see myself using the tea for long work sessions etc.
That’s really cool to know! I doubt I’ll ever get the opportunity, but it’ll be something I try if I ever do!
Is there a high connected to coca tea, or does it have to be refined?
It’s all dosage and concentration, like anything really. Cocaine is just a simple extraction from it
You could get high off it, but not on accident… You’d have to put in some leg work
Just chugging that tea.
Yeah, drinking a large amount of liquid is what I’d call “leg work”. You can’t just do a bump or smoke something, you have to pace your tea intake… Much harder to overdose or go on a bender
Good point!
Is Peru that country where lots of people, even older ones, with physically demanding jobs chew coca leaves before going to work?
Yeah, especially at high altitudes.
I would too… It helps blood flow and is a simulant. Gentler than caffeine too
Ethically sourced sustainable cocaine
The coca tree is a high altitude tropical plant that isn’t very cold tolerant. Having a look at the plant hardiness zones in Europe, parts of southern Italy, Greece, coastal Portugal or Spain might be suitable for cultivation. It’s been a while since I looked into it but people have been attempting to breed cultivars that are tolerant of low altitude conditions as well. With public research and funding it would likely be possible to produce cultivars that are more suitable for coastal Europe. That’s if it’s even the best way to go.
I’m for total legalization of recreational drugs and I think it’d be a pretty shitty thing to just tell south amarica “fuck you, we’ll make our own” considering the catastrophe caused by the war on drugs in those countries
Not to say you couldn’t design and build grow houses for them that control for those factors, nevermind produce reliable consistency.
Living in Vancouver, I’ve learned that a LOT of people purposely use fentanyl as it augments their high, the problem is its INCREDIBLY powerful, so if you fuck up the amount you take by even a tiny amount, it can lead to an overdose. So I’m not sure if legalization will solve the fentanyl overdose side of the problem