• DroneRights [it/its]
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    10 months ago

    You’ve been talking nonsense and I’ve been trying to demonstrate that to you. You say we can trust our senses, because our senses say there are instruments which can verify them. This is ridiculous. This is like trusting that a man can sell you London Bridge, because he says he’s personal friends with King George and King George can verify his story. You don’t get to meet King George, of course, you only have the man’s word that he’s involved at all. But you blindly trust him because he says he’s trustworthy. This is exactly the same as you blindly trusting your senses because they tell you they’re trustworthy.

    You seem to have gotten impatient with failing to grasp this simple logic, and now seek to dismiss it by attacking me. To aid you, I give you my own views on the subject, in this thread: https://lemm.ee/comment/7537647

    There you go. I am no solipsist, I am an antirealist. Now, before you proceed to attack my position, I ask that you seriously consider your own extraordinary claim that we can trust our senses simply because they tell us they’ve got proof.

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      No attack on you, just mostly solipsism and an admission I have no idea where you’re going with this anymore.

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        My overall point is that our senses are biased by a combination of biological and social factors that even fundamental axioms such as spacetime are untrustworthy. This is important because it legitimises antirealism as a scientific position. And that’s important because a lot of people won’t take political positions seriously unless they have a scientific backing. The fact that antirealism has better scientific backing than realism is important for trans and indigenous liberation.

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            10 months ago

            The genocide of indigenous religions was motivated by the political ideology of realism

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              It was mostly the part about the better scientific backing, despite science being based in realism, what with all of that pesky empirical data. This “scientific anti-realism” or whatever people want to call it is little more than solipsism-lite. The diet coke of egocentric nonsense. It’s a great position to take, though, because you basically don’t have to prove shit if everything is just unknowable outside of self. Not a very fun way to actually live, I’ll add.

              So yes. Piss taken. I get it. Haha.

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                Science isn’t based in realism. Science is based on empirical observation and experimentation, and consistency through repetition and peer review. The fact that most current science is based on a certain paradigm doesn’t mean that paradigm is correct. Einstein proved that Newtonian motion, upon which all prior physics was based, was incorrect. Likewise, realism is a paradigm that can be disproven. And it has been disproven by Hoffman.