We think it should be allowed, but 2.4 million illegals in 2023 alone is a bit much. And thats just the ones we know about. The US is 340 million people, more than likely more than 1% is here illegally.
So yes, we agree. Probably just a matter of where to draw the line. Personally it should be strict, and the first instance of a crime, including illegally immigrating, should result in deportation.
Common myth. The way you’re supposed to seek asylum is to apply at a border checkpoint or at an embassy. And asking for asylum after you get caught illegally immigrating is a separate act from illegally immigrating.
If we need the labor, we need to make it easier for people to come here to work. Personally I’m not sold we need the labor. As long as we have people on welfare, we have surplus labor.
My position is that the immigration system needs a gigantic overhaul to allow people to quickly, easily, and cheaply migrate and recieve asylum legally. The current system is the exact opposite in every way.
Modern republican policy instead says “fuck it, fuck them, just deport them all”.
Democrats are fuck ups on this issue too, don’t get me wrong. But by and large the majority of the fault on this issue can be attributed to republicans.
Immigration is one of our country’s core strengths. Don’t you remember that “melting pot” stuff from civics class?
Immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and for our country, so I don’t have a problem taking in as many that come. When immigrants come here, they bring their businesses with them and/or start new ones. And I like that.
That’s effectively what people said about every single group in the U.S.
Catholics, italians, protestants, irish, etc. Doesn’t matter, there will always be somebody around to be a bigot against some group. In the end it’s dumb because the melting pot is too big to really be effected. Even at 2m/year that’s a 0.6% change a year. Big whoop.
We think it should be allowed, but 2.4 million illegals in 2023 alone is a bit much. And thats just the ones we know about. The US is 340 million people, more than likely more than 1% is here illegally.
Source for figure: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/21/us/politics/cbp-record-border-crossings.html
So yes, we agree. Probably just a matter of where to draw the line. Personally it should be strict, and the first instance of a crime, including illegally immigrating, should result in deportation.
No one is illegal, they are undocumented seeking asylum that is provided by US law.
Common myth. The way you’re supposed to seek asylum is to apply at a border checkpoint or at an embassy. And asking for asylum after you get caught illegally immigrating is a separate act from illegally immigrating.
So you are supposed to do it in the first safe country. They are just illegals and not asylum seekers.
If we need the labor, we need to make it easier for people to come here to work. Personally I’m not sold we need the labor. As long as we have people on welfare, we have surplus labor.
So in other words, what I said is true.
Are you advocating for immigration in general, or illegal immigration specifically?
My position is that the immigration system needs a gigantic overhaul to allow people to quickly, easily, and cheaply migrate and recieve asylum legally. The current system is the exact opposite in every way.
Modern republican policy instead says “fuck it, fuck them, just deport them all”.
It’s not just republicans. Obama deported more people than any other president before him.
Democrats are fuck ups on this issue too, don’t get me wrong. But by and large the majority of the fault on this issue can be attributed to republicans.
We already have that system. The problem is we take in 19.1% of the worlds immigrants, thats over 50 million immigrants and thats simply too much. Those numbers were grabbed here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
The solution is not illegal immigration.
Immigration is one of our country’s core strengths. Don’t you remember that “melting pot” stuff from civics class?
Immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and for our country, so I don’t have a problem taking in as many that come. When immigrants come here, they bring their businesses with them and/or start new ones. And I like that.
You can still screw up a melting pot by putting in the wrong stuff. Especially if you put in a lot of the wrong stuff.
That’s effectively what people said about every single group in the U.S.
Catholics, italians, protestants, irish, etc. Doesn’t matter, there will always be somebody around to be a bigot against some group. In the end it’s dumb because the melting pot is too big to really be effected. Even at 2m/year that’s a 0.6% change a year. Big whoop.