• toastal@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Wut. It’s just as reproducible, flakes are mostly just a common unifying API with some extra CLI sugar for usability.

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        10 months ago

        While that is true, it’s also r13y on another level: Reproducible evaluation. That mostly stems from pure eval and locking.

        In the “before times”, you’d get your Nix expressions from some mutable location in the Nix path, so running i.e. a nixos-rebuild on your configuration could produce two different eval results when ran at two different times, depending on whether anything about your channel configuration changed in the mean time. This cannot happen with flakes as all inputs are explicitly given and locked.

        You could achieve the same using niv etc. before but that had its own issues.

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          10 months ago

          It was usually recommended to lock to inputs anyhow with all the fetchers requiring a hash which I hated having to manually update & like the UX flakes provides (I really wish they supported more than Git & Mercurial tho). You can still have different evals tho if you point to latest.tar.zstd or other non-hashed thing like a branch where the referred to can change & it won’t reproduce. I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?

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            10 months ago

            I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?

            I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.

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              10 months ago

              Aren‘t channels for NixOS, and you’d use overlays for building packages? Now you can do that all with flakes.

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                10 months ago

                No, channels are a simply a mechanism for managing what’s in your NIX_PATH.