• EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s almost like artificial scarcity means we could progress without having profit as a driving factor, and it’s not like people wouldn’t ever work. Hell productivity is to a point that 10hours a week can do what we did sixty years ago in a 40.

    Some wouldn’t work but everyone would get bored eventually and learn for fun or go try 52936729362 different jobs.

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      10 months ago

      Some wouldn’t work

      Very few wouldn’t

      UBI enough to have enough, then any wages on top of it. More than enough would gladly work 20/hrs a week doing the necessary tasks so their lives can be nicer.

      We’d also see crime drastically drop. Who would risk jail when they have a decent life to lose?

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        10 months ago

        Also, if employers know that you could quit tomorrow and have housing, food, and health care while you look for another job, they would be incentivized to make it not so shitty to work there.

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        10 months ago

        Nah.

        No UBI, no “ethical” capitalism nonsense.

        We can just provide for people without attaching strings or propping up consumerism.

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          10 months ago

          There’s be nothing better for consumerism than UBI…

          The bottleneck in our economy is that people don’t have enough to spend. Literally the only thing propping us up right now, is Americans keep spending and economists are openly admitting they don’t know why.

          If every American tried to save 5k in the bank right now, our economy would grind to a halt and there’d be massive layoffs, followed by the few with jobs still saving even more. Jobs plummetting their wages due to increased labor supply, now people are still saving, it’s just taking longer.

          We are so fucking close to a depression and everyone keeps pretending we’re fine just because fossil fuels drilling is at record level and we’re importing lots of cheap consumer goods from overseas.

          Unregulated capitalism like this isn’t sustainable

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              10 months ago

              Welp, before I block you, I might as well clarify for everyone else:

              If consumerism was important to the rich, then they’d support UBI.

              They don’t make their wealth off consumerism anymore, that shit is decades old.

              It’s like getting mad at horse drawn carriages are overpriced.

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                10 months ago

                If you’re going to block people for being anti-capitalist, you’re going to have to block the majority of Lemmy.

                Our planet cannot survive consumerism, and we don’t need to seek fleeting happiness through novelty of purchasing a product.