It might depend on what you mean by forced, but I meant it more as a hypothetical. the “my body, my choice” argument doesn’t logically differentiate between the two things. Which is why it’s ineffective at convincing people to support choice.
It might depend on what you mean by forced, but I meant it more as a hypothetical. the “my body, my choice” argument doesn’t logically differentiate between the two things.
Explain in simple english want you meant by this, then.
“My body, my choice” is not a sound stance supporting abortion because
it doesn’t only involve the pregnant person’s body; the entire conflict is because there is a zygote in the situation, as well
it sets up a defense against requiring vaccinations as a mandate to interact with society. Unless you mean to say that it’s okay if a woman is given the ““choice”” if abortion while also giving them an excessive consequence for making that choice
If the zygote wants to speak up against it then it should be listened to.
I saw groups of unvaccinated people legally hanging out throughout the COVID times, so can you elaborate on 'requiring vaccinations as a mandate to interact with society, please?
If the zygote wants to speak up against it then it should be listened to.
This is an absolutely terrifying stance to take. It implies that one’s ability to object is a requirement before the law or society should consider protections. Yikes
so can you elaborate
No. I already explained it was just a hypothetical to point out the lack of logical soundness for the “my body, my choice” rebuttal. I see no reason to continue to flesh out a high level hypothetical.
You seem to be very befuddled. Do you not understand what a hypothetical situation is for, or how it works? Of course I made it up.
Society often makes decisions for people who cannot be counted on to make their own. Like, child labor laws.
Remember: My stance is that whether or not pregnant people should have a choice to have an abortion is a matter of debate, not an objective fact. I am already pro-choice.
It might depend on what you mean by forced, but I meant it more as a hypothetical. the “my body, my choice” argument doesn’t logically differentiate between the two things. Which is why it’s ineffective at convincing people to support choice.
What?
No one was forced to get a vaccine. People are being forced to carry a baby to term because they are being denied abortions that they want.
I do not see where I said anything that you are refuting.
Explain in simple english want you meant by this, then.
How much simpler can I get?
“My body, my choice” is not a sound stance supporting abortion because
If the zygote wants to speak up against it then it should be listened to.
I saw groups of unvaccinated people legally hanging out throughout the COVID times, so can you elaborate on 'requiring vaccinations as a mandate to interact with society, please?
This is an absolutely terrifying stance to take. It implies that one’s ability to object is a requirement before the law or society should consider protections. Yikes
No. I already explained it was just a hypothetical to point out the lack of logical soundness for the “my body, my choice” rebuttal. I see no reason to continue to flesh out a high level hypothetical.
Who do you think should be making decisions for the zygote then?
Thanks for admitting that you made up the second point, that’ll make the rest of this conversation easier.
You seem to be very befuddled. Do you not understand what a hypothetical situation is for, or how it works? Of course I made it up.
Society often makes decisions for people who cannot be counted on to make their own. Like, child labor laws.
Remember: My stance is that whether or not pregnant people should have a choice to have an abortion is a matter of debate, not an objective fact. I am already pro-choice.
Thanks for the lecture about decorum Joe now shut the fuck up and let the adults talk.
Which adults are you referring to?