And why are they migrating, I wonder. If only there were reasons other than purely economic ones, like war, lack of stability, extreme droughts and other fucked up things we tend to think of while considering third world countries - many of them destabilized forever by the western nations.
The thing is, we’re both lucky, my Czech friend. They were not. What are they supposed to do? Die there, just because the richest and most privileged place in the world is too good to help out?
Muti Merkel and her ‘Wir schafen das’ promised them free money.
They came here for free money. Not for european culture and values.
Germans / French women and girls are raped every week by migrants.
Knife attacks are common business in Germany / France.
Sweden is admitting that they can’t handle gang wars made by migrants.
Europe is getting to destroy by migrants because they don’t give fuck about europe.
Peace, love for everyone is one big fairy tale. World / nature / universe doesn’t work like it.
currently, I believe India takes the cake on that particular front, at least prime minister Modi does. For example, the ruling part is making all schools, public & private, remove references to evolution and the periodic table of the elements from grade 10 science curriculum as it challenges Hindu Nationalist ideas of Indians being the first peoples, and the greatest scientists.
@tomve_cz@szczur cultures and values change over time. That is the natural progression of the world. Migration is a human right, keeping your lilly white part of the world lilly white is not.
@tomve_cz@szczur no I want Jesus’s name to be proclaimed throughout the earth.
However, what i want isn’t at stake here. What is at stake here is the very lives of individuals. If you don’t want certainly individuals to come to your home, that’s your business, but you have no right to prevent me from inviting them to mine.
An extra benefit is the great wealth all of the world would receive by recognizing freedom of movement. But even if economists are wrong, it would still be the right thing to do.
@tomve_cz@szczur I am individual who happens to reside in the part of the world you are referring to as America. American is not a term I personally would use to describe myself any longer.
Man, the one and only reason humanity is a thing so different than the others is because we have a natural tendency towards helping out each other and cooperate in ways not observed amongst other species. Empathy and benevolence are inherently human traits and it’s what made our society rise above in the first place.
But some people are assholes and you’re a great example of that.
You just showed that you have no fucking idea about living.
You are more likely bored person who never had to work or your parents are / were too busy so they didn’t spend a lot of time with you and you ended up in some naive reality.
@tomve_cz@szczur I mean I grew up on a Farm in Northwestern Wisconsin, I’m now employed in the metal working industry in Metro Detroit. My entire life I’ve had to labor, and my parents where always spending time with me, as much as I would have rather rode my bike to town to hang out with my friends, working in the fields, selling at the farmers’ market, etc.
Very easy actually, because they do not live the struggle they can easily say do this or do that but they don’t really know what it’s happening, just today a young girl, 12 yo, was raped by one of this immigrants, the crime rate went up a lot
Absolutely not only the one who do something wrong, as some as they are found guilty, seams reasonable enough to me, no?
Unfortunately that would be the majority, but would make my country a better place
I think you missed the point there, they were talking about all men. If deportation prevents rape, that should, by your logic, endorse deporting any and all rapists. Also let’s throw in there that rapists come in all genders, so basically prevention through group deportation would leave us with a pretty empty country. (And who would take us in, then, as that would make us migrants ourselves?)
Edit: I am unsure if I interpreted your comment as intended - with “only the one who do something wrong”, were you refering to the sentenced migrants, or the sentenced men in general?
I was referring to migrants, if a man of my country rape i will gladly escort him to jail personally.
But if an illigal migrant does it why should we keep him, just give him back.
They are only 8% of our population and they commit 36% of the crimes, police report as of 2015.
Npw they are more like 10% and the crime rate skyrocketed
A while ago a guy was punched to death for being gay by a group of people with the same political opinions as you. Does that mean that you should be immediately deprived of your human rights? You can not compare every single inmigrant to something that happened one day.
You know, I’m living in Poland and we have a pretty fucking big populace of foreigners and the most rapes and murders are statistically commited by polish males. By percent.
Migrants shouldn’t go to europe in first place.
I’m thanking god (like ateist) every day that I’m not living in that part of europe where is raping, murdering, gang wars daily business.
And why are they migrating, I wonder. If only there were reasons other than purely economic ones, like war, lack of stability, extreme droughts and other fucked up things we tend to think of while considering third world countries - many of them destabilized forever by the western nations.
The thing is, we’re both lucky, my Czech friend. They were not. What are they supposed to do? Die there, just because the richest and most privileged place in the world is too good to help out?
Muti Merkel and her ‘Wir schafen das’ promised them free money.
They came here for free money. Not for european culture and values.
Germans / French women and girls are raped every week by migrants.
Knife attacks are common business in Germany / France.
Sweden is admitting that they can’t handle gang wars made by migrants.
Europe is getting to destroy by migrants because they don’t give fuck about europe.
Peace, love for everyone is one big fairy tale. World / nature / universe doesn’t work like it.
Move out of europe if you hate europe.
Thanks for reminding me these garbage takes aren’t exclusive to the us, and sometimes you Europeans are even crazier with your xenophobia.
Unfortunately xenophobia is alive and well also in Europe. It tends to be more insidious and subtle, but it is very much there.
currently, I believe India takes the cake on that particular front, at least prime minister Modi does. For example, the ruling part is making all schools, public & private, remove references to evolution and the periodic table of the elements from grade 10 science curriculum as it challenges Hindu Nationalist ideas of Indians being the first peoples, and the greatest scientists.
@tomve_cz @szczur cultures and values change over time. That is the natural progression of the world. Migration is a human right, keeping your lilly white part of the world lilly white is not.
Do you want to make europe one big islamic continent? Do I understand correctly? thx
@tomve_cz @szczur no I want Jesus’s name to be proclaimed throughout the earth.
However, what i want isn’t at stake here. What is at stake here is the very lives of individuals. If you don’t want certainly individuals to come to your home, that’s your business, but you have no right to prevent me from inviting them to mine.
An extra benefit is the great wealth all of the world would receive by recognizing freedom of movement. But even if economists are wrong, it would still be the right thing to do.
Amen!
btw are you american or european? I saw that you wrote about serving in US CG
@tomve_cz @szczur I am individual who happens to reside in the part of the world you are referring to as America. American is not a term I personally would use to describe myself any longer.
Man, the one and only reason humanity is a thing so different than the others is because we have a natural tendency towards helping out each other and cooperate in ways not observed amongst other species. Empathy and benevolence are inherently human traits and it’s what made our society rise above in the first place.
But some people are assholes and you’re a great example of that.
You just showed that you have no fucking idea about living.
You are more likely bored person who never had to work or your parents are / were too busy so they didn’t spend a lot of time with you and you ended up in some naive reality.
@tomve_cz @szczur I mean I grew up on a Farm in Northwestern Wisconsin, I’m now employed in the metal working industry in Metro Detroit. My entire life I’ve had to labor, and my parents where always spending time with me, as much as I would have rather rode my bike to town to hang out with my friends, working in the fields, selling at the farmers’ market, etc.
Least racist euro
You don’t live what we live so I don’t think you can understand
And I live in Europe and it is very much not true.
Stop watching scaremongering news. It’s not that bad.
Well I see what I see and I don’t like it, a random stranger on the internet who thinks he’s morally superior to me will not make me change idea
…is talking from my personal experience living around immigrants and minorities in an European country “acting morally superior” now?
c’mon.
why would living in a different part of the world effect one’s morality?
Very easy actually, because they do not live the struggle they can easily say do this or do that but they don’t really know what it’s happening, just today a young girl, 12 yo, was raped by one of this immigrants, the crime rate went up a lot
rape is wrong, nothing changes that. Men rape women, do you want to deport all men?
Absolutely not only the one who do something wrong, as some as they are found guilty, seams reasonable enough to me, no? Unfortunately that would be the majority, but would make my country a better place
I think you missed the point there, they were talking about all men. If deportation prevents rape, that should, by your logic, endorse deporting any and all rapists. Also let’s throw in there that rapists come in all genders, so basically prevention through group deportation would leave us with a pretty empty country. (And who would take us in, then, as that would make us migrants ourselves?)
Edit: I am unsure if I interpreted your comment as intended - with “only the one who do something wrong”, were you refering to the sentenced migrants, or the sentenced men in general?
I was referring to migrants, if a man of my country rape i will gladly escort him to jail personally. But if an illigal migrant does it why should we keep him, just give him back. They are only 8% of our population and they commit 36% of the crimes, police report as of 2015. Npw they are more like 10% and the crime rate skyrocketed
A while ago a guy was punched to death for being gay by a group of people with the same political opinions as you. Does that mean that you should be immediately deprived of your human rights? You can not compare every single inmigrant to something that happened one day.
When did I talk about the LGBTQ+ community? Obviously that is bad, you should not kill someone based on their sexual preference
obviously you are in the italian fedi istance, lmfao… fratm, io sono senza parole…
I joined this server because it was free unlike the official instance, with the people coming from reddit
For everyone who’s giving me thumb down - https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2023®ion=150
@tomve_cz the only reason we have crime is because politicians keep making things illegal.
Big brain time 👏
Poor people commit crime - it’s a breakthrough!
You mean rich white people make laws to criminalize the normal behavior of minorities? :shocked_pikachu:
that’s literally a willie horthon argument
That’s reality
You know, I’m living in Poland and we have a pretty fucking big populace of foreigners and the most rapes and murders are statistically commited by polish males. By percent.
I think you’re overexaggerating it a bit.