was discussing this with a friend of mine (she’s an anarchist but she actually organizes and shit). she was saying there can be no such thing as revolutionary masculinity because the two things are contradictory. but i’m a marxist so contradictions really butter my bread.

i think in a utopian, communist world gender identity would be completely different, to the point where it might not even be legible to us today, but my question is more about how we get from here to there. basically, can we men find a way to not be shitheads in such a way as to bring about communism, or does that not even make sense

feel free to dunk on me if this is a dumb question

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  • tropicalislandvisiter [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    10 months ago

    we are saying that no form of masculinity good

    I don’t know if I agree, indigenous cultures all developed their own concept of masculinity. Some of which included traits like sharing. A man who hoards to himself instead of giving to others is not considered a real man. Masculinity based on your generosity. That seems cool to me.

    workers will fight the class war. Men are the reactionary force against it because we live in a patriarchal society and that means men control the means of production

    Most workers are men though. And men writ large don’t control the means of production, the owning class does. Most men don’t own much at all. You are incoherently mixing Marxism with radfem theory.

    the black bourgeoisie never had the chance to develop sexism, they had all those moral values placed upon them by their colonizers. Sexism as we know it is a white construct.

    Sexism was considered a major issue in the Black Panther Party. And many African societies were themselves deeply patriarchal before colonization. Sexism as it exists currently wasn’t even static in Europe.

    and the only way we can make the average young man a leftist is through early education when they are a child, so that’s why I think their a lost cause

    Again, most young men are workers, and we appeal to them by advocating for the working class. Will they be sexist? Probably, but that can be neutralized by improving people’s lives generally.

    Im just trying to advocate for cutting losses where they exist.

    What you’re advocating is that ~50% of workers are inherently unreachable. That’s a losing proposition.