Doesn’t help that middle management feels threatened since it is becoming obvious that nobody needs them. You can pretend like you’re working when people are in the office, but suddenly when noone needs you?

Yeah I’m firmly convinced of that. It’s similar to things like dressing professionally. I’m concerned with a combination of effectiveness and the welfare of all stakeholders (though I do believe the workers ought to own the place, but that’s separate). Companies do better when workers rest.

And it’s important to remember that the 40 hour work week was negotiated with the assumption the worker does no domestic labor. Due to women entering the workplace that’s no longer the reality, and while yes in heterosexual marriages the woman is more likely to be expected to take on a disproportionate amount of the domestic labor, in the ideal scenario of 50/50 with equal domestic and professional labor, we’d be working a 20 hour week. That’s a lot of assumptions but the reality is a lot of folks are burnt the fuck out. It’s exhausting to cook a healthy meal every day or two on top of an 8 hour day 5 days a week. Add in commutes, and cleaning and other chores. What happened to your 8 hours to do what you will.

And that’s not disparaging women in the workforce. I’m a professional woman as is my wife. It’s that bosses used women’s liberation as an excuse to not raise wages but didn’t cut the time they expected folks to work. So now middle class means two people work full time in middle class jobs

There isn’t evidence that WFH is better for all involved. Many benefit from it but some people suffer. Especially juniors and new joiners have been shown to have a harder time ramping up and integrating.

Their weekly pay stays the same, just a 32 hour week instead of 40.

You’ll have a lot more happy and productive workers if they all were given a livable wage and healthy work/life balance.

Scientific management and all the bullshit it has spawned needs to die.

Which also begs the question, if we were paid on par with inflation, would we still need to work 40 hours as most people do?

That’s what this is. Same pay as five day week.

So I run a small company that took part in a 4 day week trial in conjunction with a university. The goal was to set staff up with the tools necessary to achieve their full week of work in four days and measure whether it was being achieved while looking at other measurable metrics (e.g. absence through illness)

It was an unqualified success and we’ll never go back. The drive to keep a three day weekend coupled with the freshness of rolling into work after one meant everyone was absolutely hitting the same productivity levels.

Like there’s no need to fuck around on Reddit or Lemmy if you’re well rested and trying to make sure you keep that going.

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