• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    9 months ago

    If it makes you feel any better, they absolutely will live the difference if Trump wins. Even Trump 1 didn’t really make a life difference to most Lemmy-poster-demographic people until Covid hit; it was mostly vulnerable people inside or coming to the US. Trump 2 will hurt everyone, right away.

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      9 months ago

      If only being told that were enough to finally get the idjits to pull their heads out of their asses.

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        9 months ago

        Honestly, at least on Lemmy, I think a lot of the ass-headers are just a mixture of shills and edgelords. In what proportion, I have no idea.

        The ratio of beliefs on the issue is very different among the people who are genuinely engaged with it, than among the people who quick post a punchy message or two and then scuttle away. There’s just a lot of people coming in for a moment to do the second activity; that’s the only thing that makes it seem like the opinion poll is as mixed as it looks like at first.

        (I’ve been spending way too much time paying attention to this today.)

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          You know in the movies where the hero says “it’s a million to one chance but it just might save us all”, and then the “logical” character says “this plan will never work, it would be more efficient to lay down and let the bad guys kill us all”?

          Yeah, Hexbear users watched those movies and thought the “logical” character was right.

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            9 months ago

            And it’s even dumber since the single case where climate change would have actually been a threat to human life was averted already. The CFC bans the world agreed to not only stopped the damage to the ozone layer, it also significantly lowered the curve for how high temperatures could rise over a given time frame, we were originally charter for 4-6 degrees celsius of rise by 2100.

            The Doomers hate when you bring this up though because they want big change and to prove to their parents that it’s not just a phase and they can’t indulge that fantasy if they have to acknowledge that the neoliberal menace actually did something right and in a decently big way too.

            Life is gonna suck because of what we fail to do, and every bit we fail to do is gonna make it suck even more, but I’d still take the worst outcome of that over everything between the tropic latitudes becoming a blast furnace while everyone who manages to escape that suffers every kind of skin cancer imaginable if they ever forget to put on their SPF ten million like we’re the fucking Necrontyr from 40k.

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          9 months ago

          Lemmy is such a small market compared to others like reddit, twitter, and facebook. Two of them have gone full fox news. Reddit wants to but can’t afford to lose any users. The battle for social media is over and the fact that disrupters even make their way to lemmy shows how far their reach is.

          Russia and other bad actors are dragging the USA off its throne and their doing it from the inside. The GOP are like fully hopped up junkies at this point and if we tried to remove the mainline of the propaganda feeding their dilusion they’d just as well claw your eyes out.

          Just sucks no one in our government is willing to do anything about it.

          Edit: If I had one guess it would be that lemmy exists to push a red scare caricature version of a communism that’s why you see all these communists with awful takes all the time. Some of them radicalized but mostly just bad actors trying to portray lemmy, one of the last hide outs for lefties, as radical communists.