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    oh look, he’s calling on his supporters to attack a whole city because of a court ruling…
    sounds like a dangerous criminal to me…

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      Just a preview of what he plans if he is president again. He will call for attacks on all cities where he lost a trial. Except this time he would use the military to attack

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        When he was president he threatened to withhold federal funds from areas that didn’t obey him.

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        Except this time he would use the military to attack

        The US Military has been a growing cesspool of glassy-eyed goons and careerist chumps for decades. I don’t even know if he has to win in order to get some Michael Flynn type to do a Yevgeny Prigozhin on DC.

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    Do it, we shouldn’t even be sending this much shit by long haul trucking anyway. Let’s revive CONRAIL under USPS, deliver more goods by freight rail, and just use small and medium trucks for last mile deliveries. Oh, and demolish urban interstates. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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        I propose taking two lanes from each interstate everywhere in the US and converting them into Mid-Speed Rail (90-120 mph) for longer distances and HSR where it makes sense.

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          My only issues would be areas with 2 lanes or less in each direction (>4 total), heavy thoroughfares/interchanges (ie where would you put the stations/would station transfers be easy to make/would location make sense), and last mile (often once I travel outside a city where I am going may be 20+ miles away from the highway exit).

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      In Switzerland, you cannot build any kind of major logistics facility without rail access.

      In the US, local rail connection isn’t even CONSIDERED when specifying logistics facilities. Even when they are being SHOWERED with tax and infrastructure subsidies to build economically-destructive machines.

      The only developed nation to have mostly privately-owned rail and right-of-way. It makes sense when you remember easily half of the country actively wants all cities to fail and collapse.

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        Tbf, the major freight carriers in the US blow ass to try and do business with. They’re almost all being run like vulture capital operations, not trying to grow and flat-out ignoring cost centers.

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          A big part of that, in my opinion, is because they own the track and right-of-way. It creates a VERY robust natural monopoly in a field that is already predisposed to natural monopoly.

          In other countries, even deregulated ones, the state still owns the track and right of way. It an operator isn’t doing a job, a competing operator can be given a license or pay the fee and use the track and just blow them up. The state can be responsible for maintenance of the infrastructure and safety features either directly, through a PPP, or by requiring the work be done by the licensed operators as part of their fee structure. But with essentially private ROW and track, you lose almost all power.

          Shout out to the fuckwits in Cincinnati selling off their incredibly valuable resource for pennies on the dollar.

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    Economic blackmail against the largest city in the country will certainly have the desired effect.

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      i don’t even know what the desired effect is. you would think that they want the courts to be apolitical and not bow to outside pressure, and that’s what sparked the protest, but now they are politicizing the court decision and trying to apply outside pressure.

      there are lots of things this protest could effect, but the court’s decision isn’t one of them.

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        i don’t even know what the desired effect is

        There is no such thing as bad publicity. Every other article is about that moron. Americans haven’t learned one single thing about their own political system in the last 60 years.

        People might claim that I’m wrong about that. But if I were wrong, there would be some sign of people starting to work together, no matter the party…

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          Americans haven’t learned one single thing about their own political system in the last 60 years.

          American proletariat doesn’t have any direct control over their media. The rich fucks that do are, largely, sympathetic to Trump’s message of a white nationalist state that pillages its neighbors for wealth and prestige.

          This kind of media isn’t due to Big Dumb Americans being too stupid to realize how it helps the Orange Man. It is entirely deliberate, both because it generates a based audience willing to throw money towards conservative causes and because it fuels the Trump campaign by making him look strong and liberals in big cities look weak.

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      Ray says, “I’ve been on the radio talking to drivers for about the last hour… and I’ve talked to at least ten drivers… And they’re going to start refusing loads to New York City starting on Monday.”

      “I don’t know how far across the country this is, or how many truckers are gonna start denying loads going to New York City,” Ray added, “but I’ll tell you what, you fuck around and find out, OK? We’re tired of you motherfucking leftists fucking with Trump.”

      Ray went on to claim without evidence that 95 to 96 percent of truckers are for Trump and that the prosecution of Trump is “election interference.”

      Why are we even reading about this? It’s as reliable as your drunk uncle rambling at Thanksgiving. No, truck drivers aren’t going to intentionally lose money. No, the Chicago Bears aren’t going to make Uncle Ray the new Head Coach.

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    Weird, if he didn’t commit fraud maybe he should fight it in court and provide evidence that no fraud was committed…

    But I guess rallying his idiotic supporters into trying to economically harm people who he wants to elect him is a strategy. Because anyone with a functioning brain would see that any damage done by this trucker campaign would surely only be felt by the average American.

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      Its funny, because there’s a world where liberals are embracing tactics like this to resist the psychotic state violence along the US/Mexico border, to protest the police brutality endemic to big cities, and to reject the soulless economic policies intended to drive up unemployment in order to contain inflation.

      The idea of a strikes and pickets to protest shit economic conditions isn’t something Trump invented. But for some reason (full coast-to-coast control of radio mass media by a handful of dead-eyed Trump-loving fascist billionaires) its the conservatives who have the social coordination and conviction to manage popular actions like this, while the liberals just kinda kick their heels and complain.

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          It was an amazing grift and did a not inappreciable amount of economic damage.

          And, in the aftermath, liberals were sent running from the various quarantine and vaccine mandates they’d been pushing for the last two years. That, in turn, gave us a new wave of infections. Easy to forget we were looking at around 2000 deaths a week by the end of 2021 in no small part to the public revolt that the convoys embodied.

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                That video was posted a year ago but the convoy to the border was like 3 weeks ago. I didn’t bother watching further to see what that video is actually about since that’s clearly unrelated.

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                  Multiple participants from The People’s Convoy joined the Take Our Border Back convoy, it was a bit of a mini-reunion for them. I have been keeping an eye on several since they attempted to copycat the Ottawa occupation. Three livestreamers who participated in both convoys recently were featured in Wired for trying to make money through YouTube by streaming their harassment of migrants all along the border after TOBB concluded. I wouldn’t exactly call them unrelated since there was a lot of overlap between the groups, but it was disingenuous to portray the TPC turnout as TOBB since this border convoy was much smaller.

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        Yes, liberals are doing it for all the great reasons you mentioned. Trump is trying to do it because he’s a huge sore loser crybaby. See the difference?

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          liberals are doing it for all the great reasons you mentioned

          They aren’t doing it. There is no mass protest at the border. What protests were do have tend to be outsider groups protesting our own liberal leaders, not insider groups coordinating action against opposition parties.

          Beto O’Rourke isn’t leading a march through downtown Austin to protest the governor. Houston Mayor John Whitmire has been openly hostile to BLM and other civil rights movements in his home town.

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        Instead of trucks coming in from outside NY bringing goods, they can move them by a boat to one of the ports. From the port the goods can be transported by smaller trucks that only cover the zone close to the port.

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          I am very skeptical of this plan, but if they’re accounting for all the additional traffic major port expansion will inevitably induce and are setting up comprehensive logistics hubs (and who’s paying for that, Amazon?) as part of the plan while actively banishing long-haul trucking from the scene, then I guess MAYBE it could work.

          But damn, it sure sounds like a cobra tail bounty to me.

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    All 10 independent truckers, that didn’t drive into the city anyway.

    No.wait.stop.don’t.

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    There are tons of truckers that already refuse to go into NY because they’re afraid of the driving complication. No one will even notice this piss baby bullshit…

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    The “archive.org” link you used is triggering the site to make new backups of the article and it already reached the limit of captures per day so its not opening.

    This is the link just for reading.