The environment
Multigenerational family structures
Indigenous sovereignty
Oral traditions
Unions
Technological progress
Trans rights
Historical records
Mythologies and religions
Pagan traditions
The Palestinian people
Ukraine
Civil rights advances
Abandonware and lost media
Indigenous holy sites
Native species
I want to conserve lots of stuff. Am I a conservative?
conservative is about traditional values and personal liberty. Most of what you list would fit squarely into conservative philosophy.
Abandonware though does not fall into politics. I am a big fan of keeping historical technology around. I may be showing my age but I miss a lot of the software from my youth.
Oh, abandonware is political. The software is lost because distribution rights lied solely with the copyright holder. The abandonware we still have available for distribution today is what was pirated. Obviously, copyright is antithetical to software preservation.
A capitalist argument on the subject of software copyright goes “the right to distribute software is owned by a company or a businessman because they invested in that software. They have the right to control what they own. If they decide the software is no longer available for distribution, it should be lost.”
But a communist argument on the subject of software says “the means of producing wealth by distributing software should belong to everyone. The people should seize software distribution for themselves and use it for the common good. Pirate software to preserve it, it shouldn’t matter that a corporation doesn’t want to sell it anymore.”
As a communist, I believe in the conservative approach to software copyright.
I am in the middle. I believe a company should be able to make money on its software until they abandon it. Once they abandon the software, it should be free to use.
I hate to see technology go away just because someone stopped selling it.
Well in the old days we would all have copies of the disk to spread around. I still have hundreds of floppies for C64 software. I still have 3.5 for my Amiga.
I am starting to think I am a closet pack rat. I have lots of really old technology I have been carting around for 40 years.
We could push for a law that makes it open source after a certain period of time or make copyrights only useful while it’s being used.
The problem is there is so much on the backend nowadays. I used to play star wars galaxies which was mainly run on the backend. Even pirates can only pirate the front end.
I started to play as a way to keep up with friends when I moved away. We use to play and chat till the early morning on the weekends.
That’s relying on big government to solve our problems for us. And that’s not a reliable strategy when big business wants those problems to stick around so they can make us buy more new crap. Piracy is a solution that we, the people, can implement right now.
Yeah I think that the white monarchist government of my country is illegitimate and that ownership of the land should be returned to the indigenous people. If the white people don’t like it they can go back to England
Also since the government is illegitimate, cops are actually occupying soldiers and killing them is ethically A-okay.
the intentional destruction of a people’s civilization/government
slavery
to
the people trying to escape said destruction/lingering impacts
the people moving to our nations for the hope of working for a better life, who have lower crime rates than the existing population, and are a net boon to the economy
It is beyond ridiculous, and a miscarriage of history.
They’re for all intents the same. Ask the native Americans if there was a difference between the colonizers and when we formed a nation with immigrants
Indians and some Chinese technically are not immigrants to the UK. If they are part of the commonwealth, they can move to other commonwealth states.
It’s similar to Puerto Rico and America but slightly different.
It’s why there are so many Jamaicans in the UK. They are part is the commonwealth
Things I am in favour of conserving:
The environment
Multigenerational family structures
Indigenous sovereignty
Oral traditions
Unions
Technological progress
Trans rights
Historical records
Mythologies and religions
Pagan traditions
The Palestinian people
Ukraine
Civil rights advances
Abandonware and lost media
Indigenous holy sites
Native species
I want to conserve lots of stuff. Am I a conservative?
conservative is about traditional values and personal liberty. Most of what you list would fit squarely into conservative philosophy.
Abandonware though does not fall into politics. I am a big fan of keeping historical technology around. I may be showing my age but I miss a lot of the software from my youth.
Oh, abandonware is political. The software is lost because distribution rights lied solely with the copyright holder. The abandonware we still have available for distribution today is what was pirated. Obviously, copyright is antithetical to software preservation.
A capitalist argument on the subject of software copyright goes “the right to distribute software is owned by a company or a businessman because they invested in that software. They have the right to control what they own. If they decide the software is no longer available for distribution, it should be lost.”
But a communist argument on the subject of software says “the means of producing wealth by distributing software should belong to everyone. The people should seize software distribution for themselves and use it for the common good. Pirate software to preserve it, it shouldn’t matter that a corporation doesn’t want to sell it anymore.”
As a communist, I believe in the conservative approach to software copyright.
I am in the middle. I believe a company should be able to make money on its software until they abandon it. Once they abandon the software, it should be free to use.
I hate to see technology go away just because someone stopped selling it.
Same with movies, TV shows, etc.
How are pirates supposed to get copies of software that’s already been abandoned so they can distribute it?
Well in the old days we would all have copies of the disk to spread around. I still have hundreds of floppies for C64 software. I still have 3.5 for my Amiga.
I am starting to think I am a closet pack rat. I have lots of really old technology I have been carting around for 40 years.
Yeah, but that’s not the nature of how software is distributed these days. Do you have a modern solution?
We could push for a law that makes it open source after a certain period of time or make copyrights only useful while it’s being used.
The problem is there is so much on the backend nowadays. I used to play star wars galaxies which was mainly run on the backend. Even pirates can only pirate the front end.
I started to play as a way to keep up with friends when I moved away. We use to play and chat till the early morning on the weekends.
That’s relying on big government to solve our problems for us. And that’s not a reliable strategy when big business wants those problems to stick around so they can make us buy more new crap. Piracy is a solution that we, the people, can implement right now.
Conservatives are not a monolith.
That said, “Indigenous sovereignty” is very right wing. Welcome!
Yeah I think that the white monarchist government of my country is illegitimate and that ownership of the land should be returned to the indigenous people. If the white people don’t like it they can go back to England
Also since the government is illegitimate, cops are actually occupying soldiers and killing them is ethically A-okay.
Cool, cool. How do you feel about Indians and Chinese (as in the subcontinent) in Britian?
How about Syrians in Sweden?
Do you honestly believe it is logical to equate colonialism to immigration?
Yes actually. Why wouldnt they be the same thing?
You must not be very familiar with the impacts of colonialism then. Take your time and read these:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/09/a-quick-reminder-of-why-colonialism-was-bad
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/current-affairs-magazine/
https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/Colonialism/
Equating the two is laughable. You are equating
conquest
the intentional destruction of a people’s civilization/government
slavery
to
the people trying to escape said destruction/lingering impacts
the people moving to our nations for the hope of working for a better life, who have lower crime rates than the existing population, and are a net boon to the economy
It is beyond ridiculous, and a miscarriage of history.
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Because colonizer is an edge lord word.
They’re for all intents the same. Ask the native Americans if there was a difference between the colonizers and when we formed a nation with immigrants
___ is left of center right, so it is [dismissive label].
Thank you edge lord.
Now can you answer the question or are you just going to do you same MO?
Indians and some Chinese technically are not immigrants to the UK. If they are part of the commonwealth, they can move to other commonwealth states. It’s similar to Puerto Rico and America but slightly different.
It’s why there are so many Jamaicans in the UK. They are part is the commonwealth