• Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    These are good questions. Here are some more:

    Who used false statements in business? Who intended to falsify business records? Who intended to conspire to falsify business records? Who intended to issue a false financial statement? Who intended to conspire to issue a false financial statement? Why are any of these things illegal in New York?

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      9 months ago

      Irrelevant. Fraud requires a victim. Who was the victim?

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        9 months ago

        So for those of you reading along at home, wintermule doesn’t dispute that there were false business records and false financial statements issued, nor dispute that there was intent to do so, nor dispute that there was conspiracy to do so.

        People are like " Meh, sure we know he’s a liar and a crook, but whaddya gonna do? He’s our leader! You can’t punish him for breaking the law when nobody got hurt!"

        Shameless.

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          9 months ago

          No not false. Unaudited and the bank was aware and made adjustments. You really didn’t listen to anything in the case did you ?

          This is how all commercial loans are done.

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            9 months ago

            Oh I see. Not false, unaudited.

            It’s like Not torture, Strong interrogation!

            Or perhaps, Not teaching kids to pass standardized tests at the expense of creativity and critical thinking, The No Child Left Behind Act!

            Not child abuse, after-school time with Miss Nancy!

            Ok last one: Not pointlessly wreck a shit-ton of expensive equipment and kill a bunch of civilians, Operation Desert Storm!

            Well anyway I did read the judgement. It seems to address your objections.

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        9 months ago

        Apparently you the way you cry to everybody about it.

        “Trump lied and got more money? But who’s money? That’s right, nobody!”

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          I get you don’t mind fascism but normal people do. Weaponizing the courts isn’t acceptable. No victim. No lost money. Everyone made money. The banks ever testified they’d do the deals again and hope to work with him in the future.

          Sounds like you feel like you are th victim.

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            9 months ago

            Defending dishonesty and wanting them to be president sure sounds like fascism to me. But go ahead and keep believing that Trump is an innocent man.

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              9 months ago

              Obviously you’ve never paid attention to my views of Trump. He’s not my pick. That said I don’t like corruption and the courts are acting corrupt. That is why the governor made a statement since so many companies have said they can’t risk doing business in NY

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            Weaponizing the courts isn’t acceptable.

            “Lock her up! Lock her up!”

            A presidential candidate calling for that exact thing is acceptable though. Got it.

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                Ah, yes.

                I love when you ignore the point to focus on something else because you know I’m right.

                Predictable as clockwork.

                Now you’ll declare victory and run away.

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                  9 months ago

                  You’re not right. Nobody was prosecuted. The courts were not used. It’s apples and oranges.

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                    Maybe read what I actually said.

                    It sounds like you’re fine with presidential candidates threatening to weaponize the courts so long as they’re lying and/or incompetent?

                    You’d protest if Clinton actually got prosecuted then?