• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Voting is not stopping anyone from the gas chambers, the fact that we can’t even get the ‘lesser evil’ to stop contributing to this genocide should make that clear.

    I’m not convinced you’re a “leftist”

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      9 months ago

      Let’s address that first set of scare quotes. Have you changed your opinion about Joe Biden since you last told me he was the better choice for president, or are you simply dropping a mask?

      What is stopping people from the gas chambers, pray tell? Is it you? Given a Weimar vote, would you say Hitler was no more evil than any other option?

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        9 months ago

        What is stopping people from the gas chambers, pray tell? Is it you? Given a Weimar vote, would you say Hitler was no more evil than any other option?

        If the lesson you took from that was that everyone should vote for Hindenburg then you definitely missed something.

        It takes people with guns to stop fascists.

        I believed Biden was the lesser evil 4 years ago, I’m amused by the title now.

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          9 months ago

          Okay, so were you lying earlier, or are you lying now? Because you can’t hold two contradictory opinions.

          If you believe Trump is a fascist, and you believe Biden is as bad as Trump, you are sitting on your butt LARPing about armed revolution.

          How deep does the hypocrisy go?

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            9 months ago

            I don’t think Biden is less evil than Trump, but I would rather have him win because the token social shit he does makes life slightly more bearable.

            That’s why it’s funny to call him the “lesser” evil, they’re both comically evil old pieces of shit, but this one’s more willing toss me some token ‘rights’ while he carries out his genocides of my brothers and sisters abroad. Maybe you can live with that, but I’m not alone in finding that deeply uncomfortable.

            I don’t think I would feel comfortable organizing with a ‘leftist’ like you, frankly. I prefer serious people.

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              9 months ago

              “Organizing”? Oh goody! What are you organizing to do?

              You just named one policy where Biden is clearly better than Trump, so you are lying when you say you think they are the same. But if you want to keep up the lie, please tell me how they are the exact same on… I don’t know, how about civil rights. Tell me the same thing you would tell a black person about why they should withhold their vote for Joe Biden in hopes that Project 2025 affects them personally.

              Sell me on the apathy that fascists want you to have, and you want others to have.

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                9 months ago

                I’m not voting for Biden because I don’t value my own rights over the rights of Palestinians. I really don’t consider them to be worth sacrificing for my own safety. I am not interested in voting for people who would threaten me with “what the other guy will do”. If you can’t see how that makes you no different than them then I have nothing further to say to you.

                I would rather walk away from fucking Omelas at this point. I never thought I would see people claiming to be ‘on the left’ trying to tell me to ignore the genocide and vote for the perpetrators. The fact that it’s being treated as something which can be safely ignored electorally is sickening. I’m sure the other guy is worse, but I’m not going to be complicit in this either way.

                I really don’t understand what you think you’re gaining by accusing me of lying.

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                  9 months ago

                  I’m not voting for Biden because I don’t value my own rights over the rights of Palestinians.

                  The election isn’t all about you, you narcissist.

                  You specifically acknowledged Biden would be better for all women and all poor immigrants. By advocating for Trump, you advocate to make their lives worse. And for what? Palestinians gain nothing. They won’t sing praises of your purity in their death.

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                    9 months ago

                    The election isn’t all about you, you narcissist.

                    Say potato, I’m not convinced you’re human anymore.

                    By advocating for Trump, you advocate to make their lives worse.

                    I’m not advocating Trump, and you’re way too comfortable threatening women with violence and that’s weird. I’m not voting for the genocide

                    They won’t sing praises of your purity in their death.

                    Honestly just sickening rhetoric from a ‘leftist’, blue maga is a fucking cult

                    I am not interested in voting for people who would threaten me with “what the other guy will do”. If you can’t see how that makes you no different than them then I have nothing further to say to you.