• gregorum
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    9 months ago

    It was espionage. And then, like a coward, he ran into the arms of our greatest enemy, because he knew what he did was wrong, and couldn’t face the consequences. Chelsea Manning, on the other hand, had the bravery to stand up for what she did, And had her sentence commuted.

    Be careful who you praise as your heroes.

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      9 months ago

      Okay, so if you think what Edward Snowden did was wrong, you should have said that and explained why it was wrong.

      Chelsea Manning was tortured by the US government, so I’m not sure why you are holding her up as an example that The System works.

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        9 months ago

        I said that what Snowden did was espionage. When he ran from the consequences of his actions, that made him a coward. Since he ran to Russia, it makes me suspicious that he’s also a traitor. I did explain that. Now, I have explained it again. I did not make any moral evaluation, but if you need to put words in my mouth to make your argument, your argument can’t be that strong.

        And the fact that Manning was mistreated by the at one point, and then later had her sentence commuted is only evidence that the US government itself is not the faceless and single minded monolith you make it out to be. If you need to constantly mischaracterize the US government in order to make your point, your argument can’t be as strong as you claim it to be.

        If you’re gonna bother replying at all, try saying something factual for once rather than couching your arguments in half truths and twisted words.

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          9 months ago

          what Snowden did was espionage… coward… traitor…

          I did not make any moral evaluation

          LOL

          And the fact that Manning was mistreated

          Tortured

          If you need to constantly mischaracterize the US government in order to make your point

          I don’t

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            9 months ago

            I repeat:

            If you’re gonna bother replying at all, try saying something factual for once rather than couching your arguments in half truths and twisted words.

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              9 months ago

              Take your own advice

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                9 months ago

                You’re the one who asked me a question, and didn’t like the facts I gave you. You simply responded by twisting what I said into things that never happened. i’m not the one with a questionable grasp on the truth.