"California, here we come," used to be a positive expression. Now, it means something far worse for Americans in other states, after passage of two soft-on-crime propositions.
How do you define it? Germany has laws around their socialist past. Should America have laws against socialism and democrats since that is where the Nazis got their ideas?
There is a fundamental (and probably intentionally) failure of history here.
Germany was never socialist, nor were the nazis. Just as North Korea is technicallt callee the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” while not being a republic or democratic, the nazis weren’t socialists because they have the word socialism in their official name. Official names can, and in this case are bullshit. There was a socialist movement in Germany, but the nazis co-opted and destroyed socialism. Many of the political prisoners in the holocaust were communists and socialists, taken away because they were communist or socialist.
Should America have laws against socialism and democrats since that is where the Nazis got their ideas?
The nazis didn’t get any ideas for socialism. They destroyed the socialist movement, as it was antithetical to their goals.
But they did learn from the U.S., and how the conservatives in Texas treated immigrants. At the time, they would only allow people of color through if they went through harsh chemical cleaning treatments under the guise of getting rid of lice. The nazis took that idea and ran with it. And nowadays the U.S. treatment of immigrants is not much better thanks to conservatives.
I think I’d define it as inciting hate with the aim of persuading people to actions harmful or offensive to the target group…or something like that.
Should America have laws against socialism?
You know what? I wish America would try that. It’ll either result in us becoming aware of socialism actually is and/or it’ll attempt outlaw everything good under the sun like advocating for minimum wage laws, UBI, harm reduction policies, etc, such that it’ll be opposed by almost everybody that isn’t a soulless ghoul.
I think I’d define it as inciting hate with the aim of persuading people to actions harmful or offensive to the target group…or something like that
The first part is already illegal. That’s an action. Offensive ? That’s a vague term. People here love to call republicans fascist. That would hit your description of hate speech and would be criminal.
If someone refused to use pronouns. That would be illegal.
Calling me cisgender would be illegal since I find that offensive.
See how quickly this spirals out of control ?
German has laws against national socialism, ironically because we forced the laws on them after the war. We were trying to purge nazism.
We don’t want speech to be criminalized as we are a country of ideas. You may not like the idea but somebody may not yours. Yet, you bough have the right to have your ideas.
How do you define it? Germany has laws around their socialist past. Should America have laws against socialism and democrats since that is where the Nazis got their ideas?
There is a fundamental (and probably intentionally) failure of history here.
Germany was never socialist, nor were the nazis. Just as North Korea is technicallt callee the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” while not being a republic or democratic, the nazis weren’t socialists because they have the word socialism in their official name. Official names can, and in this case are bullshit. There was a socialist movement in Germany, but the nazis co-opted and destroyed socialism. Many of the political prisoners in the holocaust were communists and socialists, taken away because they were communist or socialist.
The nazis didn’t get any ideas for socialism. They destroyed the socialist movement, as it was antithetical to their goals.
But they did learn from the U.S., and how the conservatives in Texas treated immigrants. At the time, they would only allow people of color through if they went through harsh chemical cleaning treatments under the guise of getting rid of lice. The nazis took that idea and ran with it. And nowadays the U.S. treatment of immigrants is not much better thanks to conservatives.
I think I’d define it as inciting hate with the aim of persuading people to actions harmful or offensive to the target group…or something like that.
You know what? I wish America would try that. It’ll either result in us becoming aware of socialism actually is and/or it’ll attempt outlaw everything good under the sun like advocating for minimum wage laws, UBI, harm reduction policies, etc, such that it’ll be opposed by almost everybody that isn’t a soulless ghoul.
The first part is already illegal. That’s an action. Offensive ? That’s a vague term. People here love to call republicans fascist. That would hit your description of hate speech and would be criminal.
If someone refused to use pronouns. That would be illegal.
Calling me cisgender would be illegal since I find that offensive.
See how quickly this spirals out of control ?
German has laws against national socialism, ironically because we forced the laws on them after the war. We were trying to purge nazism.
We don’t want speech to be criminalized as we are a country of ideas. You may not like the idea but somebody may not yours. Yet, you bough have the right to have your ideas.
You don’t want solutions, you want to be mad.
That’s a silly thing to say. Who’s mad?