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Damn dude lol
20 years ago was prime rvb thats why
Rooster Teeth was a shell of itself for a long time, but those first few seasons of Red vs Blue were a fundamental part of my damn teenage years.
They shifted over the years. From RvB, to Achievement Hunter, Rage Quit, and Let’s Play, to RWBY, to podcasts. It seems like the current move is just cutting out the non-pod stuff since that’s what is successful right now.
and abuse
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They had alleged abuse. I think part of it was the start up mentality of working long hours and expecting others to do the same even after they had become a stable company.
Some alleged slurs also from people who were a lot more comfortable than they probably should have been with coworkers. At least one of the people alleging slurs also definitely used slurs. May or may not be connected to how comfortable they were saying the types of things they did.
Honestly, that’s kind of scratching the surface. There were a couple predators that were ousted when they were caught. One dude was ousted when he went off the deep end with conspiracy theories and was too crazy to work with. One guy was an alcoholic but got better.
They seemed to gradually get better. But they really seemed to have a new controversy every couple of years.
Ok I’m pretty sure I understand most of who you are talking about, but can you tell me who the conspiracy theorist was?
And with the alcoholic I assume you mean Geoff? It’s funny, because he ultimately became one of the only few people I actually really wanted to listen to in the last 4ish years, I don’t think his sabbatical and ultimate recovery is much of a controversy, more just personal issues that he dealt with. He seemed to be one of the few that really still believed in the company.
Omg you meant Joel. Wow, I can’t believe he had been out for so long I forgot about him.
I thought I had heard that he was problematic when he was drinking. I figured I would at least mention it.
I’m glad he got better though. Once Gus stepped away from the RT Podcast I went and listened to all of ANMA. And now that’s one of only 3 or 4 podcasts I will listen to every episode of.
People on the internet: Oh my god, they were my childhood, I will miss them so much, they were like family and friends whom I loved and talked to me everyday and made me laugh.
People who actually worked on the place: Most toxic environment I’ve ever worked in, got bullied, harassed and physically assaulted by misogynist, racists, sexists hooligans everyday, management encouraged them and frequently joined on.
oh, people on the internet know. The people who don’t know are the ones who disengaged a long time ago. I stopped watching years ago and can’t be bother to keep up with every piece of drama that they put out.
I’m more shocked learning that Rooster Teeth was owned by one of these companies to begin with.
$$$
They sold out
Damn, I remember watching RvB when it was still just cropped gameplay footage with the reticle visible on the screen. I have the Blu-ray box set of seasons 1-10 and the Chorus Trilogy. After Monty died everything kinda started going downhill. Final nail in the coffin I guess.
RvB was like '00s at it’s best.
“It would be ironic if we were made of iron.”
Hard cut to the next scene.
I was surprised they were still cranking out episodes. I watched one last year out of boredom. It wasn’t even funny. It was just like… CGI doing CGI stuff.
Back when it was actual machinina, it was pretty funny. Once it became an actual production, I lost interest.
Kinda saw the writing on the wall the past few years, but damn. That’s a big part of my childhood right there
Thank you. That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I stopped watching or subscribingg to anything other than Funhaus and now I am not vibing with the new set. Culture begets culture until you change it for the better.
I’ll never understand why they decided to call themselves Warner Bros Discovery. Would be like disney renaming themselves to “disney History Channel”
This is the same company that had cinemax, HBO, HBO go, HBO now, HBO Max, and Max. Naming isn’t exactly their strong suit.
And at least the last rename isn’t like international in some places we still have HBO Max naming.
Also back when it was just cable there were like 10 different HBO channels, with slight name variations.
Also isn’t who the head of discovery was now the head of the merged company? He probably wants to keep that name but can’t get rid of Warner Bros because of brand recognition
I stopped watching anything made by their network around the time they started shilling fake boner pills and sweeping scandals under the rug. I never saw RvB but I came in as a fan for a while of Let’s Play and Funhaus, before they acquired it. I even contributed to First for a little while.
They had a lot of momentum in those days, but I think they tried to grow beyond their ability. Most of the new programming they developed was inferior to the lightning-in-a-bottle stuff they were initially built on. They tried to expand their business while hamstrung by their own internal limitations. They did suffer from some bad luck, but really, they mostly self-destructed in slow motion.
It’s hard enough to build an internet company based on algorithms and originating on someone else’s platform. They tried to navigate independently as long as they could, but really, when fans aren’t responding exponentially to your investment, you can either sell out or die right away. Props for twenty years of capitalizing on early internet fame. But to me, this is an overdue death. Basing your brand around being a dick was bound to have a shelf life.
I haven’t actively followed their stuff much at all, especially in the last many years, but this one hurts me. Red VS Blue was such a big part of my childhood into my teenage years, with the first ten seasons having gotten more rewatches by me than any other show out there.
Starting to feel those Blood Gulch Blues. Might marathon the whole series, myself.
The final season was expected out later this year. I wonder if they’ll still finish it. I assume so since they mentioned finishing obligations.
Edit: Allegedly the final season will be the last thing the company puts out, outside of the podcasts.
Were the seasons past 10 any worth watching? I’d heard some mixed views on the latter seasons, and season 10 ends SO strongly with such a good sense of closure to it, it was genuinely confusing to me when I heard they dropped an 11th season.
They lost me when they started getting all serious. with the “named” seasons and Church as a tortured AI and whatever.
After that I’ve caught an occasional episode and PSA that were old-school stupid and funny; did it eventually go back to being that in general?
My wife still wishes they featured more Baby Blarg, she loved that guy.
Yeah I can’t deny that seasons 6 and 7 were a drag, especially 6. Not as much comedy and it’s overall dryer, but I did appreciate the effort put into them trying to do some actual story telling and world building. One COULD argue the necessity of a goofy internet comedy show having world building, but for me I liked the story enough that I was able to push through the dryness.
Season 8 held much of that focus on story, but made up for it with CGI action scenes that, at least when I last saw them at a younger age, were rad as fuck. They prolly haven’t aged heaps well, but hey, coming from an internet comedy show about a buncha moronic dorks in Halo, it was unexpected and WELL appreciated. Can’t remember how the comedy held up given that it’s been at least a decade since I last saw it, unfortunately.
Seasons 9 and 10 were genuinely pretty well written and enjoyable, in my memory! Lots more of those CGI action scenes, cut in between story bits with the Freelancer project and goofy happenings with the main cast. Season 10 especially had an impact on me at the time, and to this day I still refuse to tell my loved ones goodbye. It’s too final, too certain.
Never saw anything past that. Season 10’s ending was open ended for the Blood Gulch crew, but all the big story beats they’d worked towards over the years had been given the closure they needed. Just felt odd to me that they took that closure and just, kept going. Maybe I’ll finally check the later seasons out.
Whether or not you’d enjoy it I can’t say, I don’t know your preferences and it’s been SO long since I’d last touched the series. I think I’m gonna go marathon the series with a buddy of mine, go on one final trip to Blood Gulch and give a large part of my childhood that kinda closure.
‘Previously On’ from Series 11 is worth a watch. And possibly the episode prior to it if you want context - but the main reason is just because it’s a load of stupid RvB humour and it’s brilliant.
Thanks for that!
heaps
Oh, hey, g’day
American, actually! I’m just real bad about coopting language from folks elsewhere and I know an Aussie and work with a kiwi lol
Ha, I wondered when you said “buddy” :)
Honestly, I think I dropped off around then too. But I’ve been wanting to go back and watch them all since they’re wrapping it up.
Gonna try grabbing a buddy and marathoning through the series. I’ve gushed in another comment, but the series meant a lot to me at a younger age during happier times. Maybe now’s as good a time as any to get some closure and finish watching it all.
The chorus trilogy is awesome and should be watched
Starting and ending with RvB, it’s like pottery it rhymes
I was shocked a couple of months ago when YouTube suddenly decided to randomly throw one of their videos into my autoplay-feed. WTF? They still exist?!
But it get’s worse. It was about Geoff screaming “The haters said we will die so many times! And we made it every time! And we will make it this time, too!” Didn’t go well I guess.
Wow TIL achievement hunter was shut down last year. I guess it was all down hill…
Didn’t two of them try to fuck kids or something?
No one tried to fuck kids.
Kovic pranced around naked in the office on cam with a girl he was actively cheating on his wife with.
and Ryan manipulated emotionally vulnerable people into sex to cheat on his wife with. One of which was 17, but iirc she admitted about lying about her age, So while Ryan was a predator, he wasnt a child predator iirc.
These two were just the tips of the iceberg. Roosterteeth has been problematic since damn near the start.
One of their early advertisers was “Alpha Brain”, some sugar pill that was supposed to make you think better to game better. Pure pseudoscience junk.
Much later they started shilling for an online prescription mill to their young audience, and in typical roosterteeth fashion. They got really super pissed off at being called out about it, then had geoff come out and try to twist the valid criticism into an attack on his miraculously convenient Erectile Dysfunction.
They also had MASSIVE issues with bigotry behind the scenes, Which IIRC is why Micah Burton and KDin got the fuck out of dodge. (I strongly suspect that Gavin was one of the worst about this, judging from edits early videos made around him and just my pure supposition, I can totally see him being the kind of person to drop the hard R in casual conversation without warning, and think its a laugh).
Also they spent years exploiting fans for free/low cost labor. Not just at expos and events, but behind the scenes in their animation department.
and anytime there was valid criticism about anything they did, They’d spend an entire post/podcast/etc railing against their “idiot” fans for not knowing better… I think at one point, someone… maybe burnie? told all the old, diehard, complaining fans to fuck off and that the can be replaced with new fans?
Which really turned out well, considering they’ve been floundering for years before the guillotine finally came down.
This is just the shit I can remember. Theres a whole plethora more of bullshit that Roosterteeth has done. Sucks for the behind the scene not-asshole folks to be losing their jobs, but RT deserves its ignominious death.
edit This is all to the best of my recollection, If I have some small details wrong let me know so I can correct.
Aww, Gav’s racist? I hope not, but I can see how someone on staff could be with how quickly Burton came on and left. Unfortunate, I liked her when she was on.
I got no hard evidence, largely cause they edit the shit out of the videos and arent dumb enough to say it in public, but there have been off hand comments referencing gavins awfulness behind scenes and shit and there was one video where they were doing a LOT of editing around what cavin was saying (I think it was an AWHU from a very long time ago, like pre-ryan long ago), that I would 100% put money on the fact that… like I said, he not only says the hard R, he says it with laughter and glee.
and hes probably not the only one, I just think hes the most likely.
but to be clear, supposition and such.
I remember the N word being dropped and edited out of Minecraft Let’s Plays, cant remember who said it then.
maybe thats what i’m thinking of. it was a long time ago.
They got really super pissed off at being called out about it, then had geoff come out and try to twist the valid criticism into an attack on his miraculously convenient Erectile Dysfunction.
Wait what? Huh?!
pretty much my reaction, and was the moment I started shifting hard away from RT/AH/Etc
I never liked Gavin, but I never pegged him as a racist. Not sure if I should feel vindicated
Only one of the two, the other was just a sexual predator.
Damn, it’s fucked up that that’s somehow better as well.
I wonder what’s gonna happen to the Slow Mo Guys? They’re about the last roster teeth thing I watch these days.
I didn’t think they were affiliated with RT, except that Gavin worked for both.
Funhaus needs to survive this.
Funhaus didn’t survive Lawrence, Bruce, and eventually Adam leaving, as far as I’m concerned.
Spoole and Joel were always funny and it was sad to see them go but the nail in the coffin was Adam’s unfortunate departure, in my opinion.
Unfortunate, you’ve missed a great crew that found great chemistry after the pandemic.
I stopped for a long while after Adam and during the pandemic and I have to agree. Patricks chemistry with everyone is great, the Ryan lore well runs infinitely deep and they cast in general seems to be having more fun.
It’s a similar kind of content it always was but it’s making me laugh like it used to so I can’t complain.
Brought u this thing with Lawrence, Bruce and KassemG is also pretty excellent.
… isn’t Adam why Lawrence and Bruce left?
Is he? That happened much later.
I haven’t followed them for a long while so I dont know if they ever came out and said that was why they left. Only speculation from fans at the time.
It happened much later because the company protected him instead of people complaining about him. To my knowledge, Lawrence said ‘it’s him or me,’ and the company said ‘okay.’
Admittedly Bruce is probably a different story. I was thinking of Lawrence and Spoole.
Sure hope they spin off like some of the previous crew.
Bruce and Lawrence can welcome them into their world.
It’s a real bummer that we’ll never get the conclusion to RWBY after 9 volumes. Even if the quality has been on a steady decline since volume 3, and volume 9 itself was a fucking joke, I’d still prefer to see the story wrapped up. I was mostly just in it for Jen Taylor though, so hopefully she does something else awesome.
Man I’m glad I stopped watching after volume 3 then. I remember thinking that the early seasons weren’t great aside from some action sequences, and that maybe once they got the ball rolling they could do the story more justice. But it needed to get better after V3, not worse lol.
Isn’t RWBY that American-made Anime-shaped object?
I haven’t watched their videos in a long time but I actually listen to a few of their podcasts… damn how wild. One of their podcasts posted on IG they’d try to keep going.
Does this mean Tales From the Stinky Dragon is shutting down too? While it’s not the best DnD actual play, it’s still pretty great. And i still hold out hope that Gustavo brings back Black Box Down some day
Edit: nvm i read the article and the podcasts are staying
Yeah they’re staying for now, i hope that ANMA and so alright stay on the air too.