It might not be wise to dig up deleted comments. It’s no spez editing comments, but it does seem wrong in a way.
Tbf everything on the internet is saved somewhere. But people will feel less comfortable talking about what they honestly think if they think their wishes to be forgotten aren’t being respected by the mods themselves.
With federated services there’s really no such thing as a true “delete” since any instance can decide on their end to not respect deletes. If there’s not one out there already, there will be, I’m sure of it. It’s a very common practice on other federated services like Mastodon/Pleroma/Akkoma (some instances just do not respect deletes). Also, the rampant amount of fedi post scrapers make truly deleting a post virtually impossible. Because of this, it’s recommended that you be extra cautious about what you post to the fediverse, since any instance can decide to, well, not accept delete requests.
Not that digging through the database for their comment actually did much, since as is shown by another reply on this thread, someone had already screenshotted the original reply before deletion.
However, I understand your concern, and we will avoid this practice in the future.
While I do see concerns with digging up deleted comments as a common practice, I don’t really see it as much of an issue so long as it’s kept to ultimately trivial stuff like this, especially considering that it’s basically second nature for people to screenshot moronic posts so they can put the stupidity on display when belligerent trolls realize they’re not winning. I see it on all platforms, Twitter especially, and on reddit it was pretty common to just outright say exactly what people deleted.
Right. This will never be used against anyone on this local instance. Do note that nothing here is ever truly deleted and that everything is just “marked” as deleted. I’d imagine this is so admins can take action against someone who’s stirring up some shit and can hold said people accountable.
If you don’t like this fact, then Lemmy is not the right choice for your social media needs. Since all instances do this. It’s not unique to us.
I just now looked to see if “deleted” posts get deleted from the DB via an automatic scheduled cleanup task and they do after 30 days per: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3208
My mentality is that I’m already going into the DB to undelete communities since those who delete their accounts automatically wind up deleting the owned communities with it (I know, it’s stupid) and reset user’s passwords who request it. Since we don’t have an email server. While they’re just password hashes that don’t mean anything, this “is” sensitive info nonetheless and I feel uncomfortable seeing this data.
Anyways, I saw this post from a person who isn’t even from this instance, and the post they made minutes after @Disabled@burggit.moe politely responded to him where they were trying to get us defederated. This was hours after I found out we were defederated from a big instance, for which I was still feeling slightly miffed about.
This guy was exhibiting average Redditor vibes and I just had to shit on him since he’d naturally be used to a typical Reddit mod materializing out of nowhere and making the bad man (me) go away immediately with a permaban.
He proved he was an average Redditor by deleting his post and trying to clear any evidence of shitting all over someone’s house. And I just needed to put it on display just what he said and tried to do. This guy is an average Redditor. Let’s all point and laugh!
Anyways, this was a rare unique case where someone from a different instance came in here into a positive thread and shit it up and try to get us blocked from their instance and I just couldn’t let him get away with pulling their typical Reddit bullshit.
Coward deleted his comment. Went digging through the DB to find it. Again, nice try, Redditor.
Edit: Do note that the string of text to the far left is his comment ID and notice that it matches up with this: https://burggit.moe/comment/54385
Happened to still have it open in another tab.
Absolute chad over here.~
Cheers.
It might not be wise to dig up deleted comments. It’s no spez editing comments, but it does seem wrong in a way.
Tbf everything on the internet is saved somewhere. But people will feel less comfortable talking about what they honestly think if they think their wishes to be forgotten aren’t being respected by the mods themselves.
With federated services there’s really no such thing as a true “delete” since any instance can decide on their end to not respect deletes. If there’s not one out there already, there will be, I’m sure of it. It’s a very common practice on other federated services like Mastodon/Pleroma/Akkoma (some instances just do not respect deletes). Also, the rampant amount of fedi post scrapers make truly deleting a post virtually impossible. Because of this, it’s recommended that you be extra cautious about what you post to the fediverse, since any instance can decide to, well, not accept delete requests.
Not that digging through the database for their comment actually did much, since as is shown by another reply on this thread, someone had already screenshotted the original reply before deletion.
However, I understand your concern, and we will avoid this practice in the future.
While I do see concerns with digging up deleted comments as a common practice, I don’t really see it as much of an issue so long as it’s kept to ultimately trivial stuff like this, especially considering that it’s basically second nature for people to screenshot moronic posts so they can put the stupidity on display when belligerent trolls realize they’re not winning. I see it on all platforms, Twitter especially, and on reddit it was pretty common to just outright say exactly what people deleted.
Right. This will never be used against anyone on this local instance. Do note that nothing here is ever truly deleted and that everything is just “marked” as deleted. I’d imagine this is so admins can take action against someone who’s stirring up some shit and can hold said people accountable.
If you don’t like this fact, then Lemmy is not the right choice for your social media needs. Since all instances do this. It’s not unique to us.
I just now looked to see if “deleted” posts get deleted from the DB via an automatic scheduled cleanup task and they do after 30 days per: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3208
My mentality is that I’m already going into the DB to undelete communities since those who delete their accounts automatically wind up deleting the owned communities with it (I know, it’s stupid) and reset user’s passwords who request it. Since we don’t have an email server. While they’re just password hashes that don’t mean anything, this “is” sensitive info nonetheless and I feel uncomfortable seeing this data.
Anyways, I saw this post from a person who isn’t even from this instance, and the post they made minutes after @Disabled@burggit.moe politely responded to him where they were trying to get us defederated. This was hours after I found out we were defederated from a big instance, for which I was still feeling slightly miffed about.
This guy was exhibiting average Redditor vibes and I just had to shit on him since he’d naturally be used to a typical Reddit mod materializing out of nowhere and making the bad man (me) go away immediately with a permaban.
He proved he was an average Redditor by deleting his post and trying to clear any evidence of shitting all over someone’s house. And I just needed to put it on display just what he said and tried to do. This guy is an average Redditor. Let’s all point and laugh!
Anyways, this was a rare unique case where someone from a different instance came in here into a positive thread and shit it up and try to get us blocked from their instance and I just couldn’t let him get away with pulling their typical Reddit bullshit.
Sorry for rambling.