I like the focus on free expression and the loli/shota/cub policy! The admins seem pretty chill too!

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    Sorry that someone crashed your thread.

    Burggit is the only instance that I have a feeling that I’m not swapping the repressive admin set from reddit for another repressive set from lemmy. I think the people of reddit are too used to being repressed. Being told what they can and can’t post. Your title needs to look like this, you need to have these tags in your post, you most post every source in an image. No photoshop. No AI. There’s certain body types you cannot post as determined by anyone who wants to use the report button. I see it on every instance where they preportally make a “safe space” by censoring and restricting the ever loving shit out of their community.

    Every other instance I’ve seen has started where reddit left off: repressed enough to be advertisement friendly. I feel they do this because it’s all they’ve known recently.

    In this instance, I see the seed of it not trying to be a no holds barreled 4chan knockoff like some instance are, but a site trying to be what reddit was - separate groups coming together to make a small community. Rules in place to carefully guide it from being taken down or becoming shit. Rules about behavior rather than content.

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      Thank you very much for those kind words. This made my night despite previously feeling admittedly defeated after getting defederated from yet another big community.

      Which said big community was threatened with a defederation from other big instances if they don’t get rid of their r/the_donald knockoff sub that has only one person making milquetoast newsy posts.

      I only found out because I wanted to chime in to defend them from the Reddit hivemind that was being completely unreasonable towards the instance operator. I wish them lots of luck and good will since they want to maintain their tolerant stance towards communities they disagree with, what with the said reddit janny hivemind taking hold across this part of the hilariously fractured fediverse.

      Anyways, again, thank you. I needed this.

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        I getcha. I was never a T_D guy, but the time when T_D was banned was a pretty clear line crossed in terms of Reddit admins deciding they would determine the site’s direction rather than the community. It was eminently obvious that the excuse they gave was BS as well.

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      Definitely the exact sort of thing we’re aiming for! Thanks for the kind words Nazrin, and thanks for trusting us to host Touhou NSFW, we love having you here and hope to continue to make it a place you and other users enjoy!

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    Look, I liked it when there was /l/ in imageboards and /r/lolicon in reddit could pass off without fuzz. Nice images, funny commentaries, 3DPD, etc. It also coincided with the 2000s when internet, or at least the places I frequented, still kept this chill party vibe of high school or college aged young adults cracking jokes without nosy parents.

    We all know what happened gradually. Facebook became a thing, Linkedin became a thing, Serious Business™ was all over the place. As more people went online and also the amount of moralfaggots taking online banters at face value increased, “I’m against actual child abuse, but this is just a drawing” didn’t convince the growing crowd of Lawyers and Human Resources looking for reasons to fire you and make your life impossible.

    So I pretended to grow up. I had bills to pay. Put on a suit and played the ‘pivoting synergy’ bullshit game to keep my ‘professional’ profile squeaky clean. But we have our own limits. Some actually drink the kool aid but I wasn’t born for that. I need my alone time. I need my shitposting faggotry intakes.

    I searched for that place. The chans had changed a lot. Newfags didn’t know about Moot anymore. The reddit alternatives at the time like Voat and other “freedom loving” places were infested with either far right or far left, some even actual pedos. No thanks, I said.

    So this is how I came to be. Will this be the place? No idea. I’ll stick around and see. We all knew it was ‘the internets’. We all knew it was a joke. None of this nazi bullshit pretending to be freedom fighters. Just plain childish fun.

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    Anyways, aside from virtually pantsing that absolute loser for shitting up a thread on our instance,

    I like this instance the most because it’s nice meeting new people on here and seeing how nice well mannered free expression takes place here without the typical unwarranted namecalling you’d expect from the likes of 4chan, Kiwifarms, Gab, etc. As well as the lack of poison that is the neverending culture war that gets peddled on the typical alt-tech platform.

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    I just needed a new place to lurk and read stuff while procrastinating at work.

    I find that both admins look level-headed which is a big plus for this instance. Fostering a nice community starts from the top imo.

    I’m not a fan of lolis but I don’t think it should ever be banned either. I also agree with Burger’s comment that it “acts as a forcefield around us”. I think it’s one of those topics where people lose their mind entirely and never think twice about it.

    Disagreeing on certain topics while being respectful and knowing that it harms no one is not really popular nowadays.

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    I like the maturity and levelheadedness here.

    I’ve never seen such consistent respect during disagreements before. Sure one or two occasional ones on reddit, or maybe even discord groups. But here it seems commonplace.

    It could be that we’re still small, but I hope the culture continues to be good.

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      This is definitely the type of community and discussions we want to continue to foster and will do our best to try and make sure it continues. :3

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    I quite enjoy it here. So far the culture seems pretty fine and It also feels like it’s unlikely a random, inexplicable, and harsh shift in views (like the animemes incident from reddit) will see me banned or something. I do think there can be such a thing as being too lenient with what’s allowed (if your bar lets in nazis then your bar is the nazi bar and all that), but it doesn’t seem to be a big issue here. The biggest problems (being shut out of other content) don’t come from this instance either, it’s other instances having weird hangups that paint them in a really bad light going forward, and that can be gotten around with a back up anyway if i ever need to doom scroll on the toilet at 3am.

    It’s also got some cute and funny communities and just a old-school vibe to it that’s so much better than a Reddit knock off (but that might just be the fediverse). Like, I’m more likely to see a kaomoji then an emoji (ᵔ◡ᵔ)

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      Dunno how I didn’t notice this post, but I replied so I can assure you the nazi bar thing wont happen. We find those types super insufferable and they’re usually a hairpin’s trigger away from being mean and shitty to others, which we’ve addressed that in our rules. There’s plenty of places to get your culture war fix, we don’t want this place to turn into yet another site that peddles that tensions inflaming garbage.

      We do allow humor that some say would be politically incorrect, but if it’s anything close to calling for violence against a group of people regardless of gender or race, or if they’re directing those jokes at someone for which they asked them to stop, and they continue, then they’re not welcome here.

      Not to mention that us allowing loli/shota/cub content acts as a forcefield around us keeping those types at bay.

      Hope you enjoy your stay here.

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        I’m pretty sure that worry is a bit of social media poisoning, honestly. All of Reddit’s competition died because of that issue, but back in the days of forums things never got that bad. The explicit oli acceptance will probably also help to keep things manageable these days.

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    I like that it’s actually chill here, and not that “chill, until someone has a disagreement and we need to defederate this instant” that I’ve encountered elsewhere. As has been said, having lolis acts as a forcefield against a certain breed of obnoxious, censorious, dimwits who do nothing but moralize.

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      At no point have we ever promoted pedophilia. I have stated that not all pedophiles are automatically child abusers/rapists. In this case, I am using the term pedophile to mean someone with an attraction to children. Just being attracted to something does not automatically make you abusive. The same as how simply being attracted to men does not make you someone who rapes men.

      If you’re referring to the type of artwork we host here (which is entirely legal in the jurisdiction we host in.) These are entirely fictional depictions, and any reasonable person could be shown these images and realize they do not feature any actual person. Just like how someone does not automatically become a murderer for killing someone in a video game, someone does not become a pedophile or child molester for looking at lines on paper.

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      https://burggit.moe/post/58078

      You very clearly are the definition of an average Redditor. When someone politely responds to you, you go to your instance the millisecond he replies and demand we be blocked off because you have the seemingly innate inability to use the tools to block us from showing up for your user.

      How about you go complain about the tankies some more while refusing to look in the mirror.

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      Coward deleted his comment. Went digging through the DB to find it. Again, nice try, Redditor.

      Edit: Do note that the string of text to the far left is his comment ID and notice that it matches up with this: https://burggit.moe/comment/54385

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        It might not be wise to dig up deleted comments. It’s no spez editing comments, but it does seem wrong in a way.

        Tbf everything on the internet is saved somewhere. But people will feel less comfortable talking about what they honestly think if they think their wishes to be forgotten aren’t being respected by the mods themselves.

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          With federated services there’s really no such thing as a true “delete” since any instance can decide on their end to not respect deletes. If there’s not one out there already, there will be, I’m sure of it. It’s a very common practice on other federated services like Mastodon/Pleroma/Akkoma (some instances just do not respect deletes). Also, the rampant amount of fedi post scrapers make truly deleting a post virtually impossible. Because of this, it’s recommended that you be extra cautious about what you post to the fediverse, since any instance can decide to, well, not accept delete requests.

          Not that digging through the database for their comment actually did much, since as is shown by another reply on this thread, someone had already screenshotted the original reply before deletion.

          However, I understand your concern, and we will avoid this practice in the future.

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            While I do see concerns with digging up deleted comments as a common practice, I don’t really see it as much of an issue so long as it’s kept to ultimately trivial stuff like this, especially considering that it’s basically second nature for people to screenshot moronic posts so they can put the stupidity on display when belligerent trolls realize they’re not winning. I see it on all platforms, Twitter especially, and on reddit it was pretty common to just outright say exactly what people deleted.

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              Right. This will never be used against anyone on this local instance. Do note that nothing here is ever truly deleted and that everything is just “marked” as deleted. I’d imagine this is so admins can take action against someone who’s stirring up some shit and can hold said people accountable.

              If you don’t like this fact, then Lemmy is not the right choice for your social media needs. Since all instances do this. It’s not unique to us.

              I just now looked to see if “deleted” posts get deleted from the DB via an automatic scheduled cleanup task and they do after 30 days per: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3208

              My mentality is that I’m already going into the DB to undelete communities since those who delete their accounts automatically wind up deleting the owned communities with it (I know, it’s stupid) and reset user’s passwords who request it. Since we don’t have an email server. While they’re just password hashes that don’t mean anything, this “is” sensitive info nonetheless and I feel uncomfortable seeing this data.

              Anyways, I saw this post from a person who isn’t even from this instance, and the post they made minutes after @Disabled@burggit.moe politely responded to him where they were trying to get us defederated. This was hours after I found out we were defederated from a big instance, for which I was still feeling slightly miffed about.

              This guy was exhibiting average Redditor vibes and I just had to shit on him since he’d naturally be used to a typical Reddit mod materializing out of nowhere and making the bad man (me) go away immediately with a permaban.

              He proved he was an average Redditor by deleting his post and trying to clear any evidence of shitting all over someone’s house. And I just needed to put it on display just what he said and tried to do. This guy is an average Redditor. Let’s all point and laugh!

              Anyways, this was a rare unique case where someone from a different instance came in here into a positive thread and shit it up and try to get us blocked from their instance and I just couldn’t let him get away with pulling their typical Reddit bullshit.

              Sorry for rambling.