• Conyak@lemmy.tf
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    8 months ago

    You’re right that you can’t believe a screen shot of a tweet but this was all over the news when it happens as well.

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      8 months ago

      The only thing I can come up with about his anti LGBTQ positions is that he checked a box that says he believes businesses have the right decline to work with things that conflict with their religious beliefs and they trans girls shouldn’t compete in women’s sports.

      Now dont get me wrong, I strongly oppose one of these (denial of service) and the other im still on the fence about. But you really have to work to make this some hypocritical positions because you had sex with a man.

      I’ve seen nothing that indicates hes very vocal on anti LGBTQ issues, let alone, as this tweet implies, one of the loudest.

      So I’ll go ahead and say the tweet is false, and if not, grossly misleading.

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        8 months ago

        “He who shouts the loudest” is a common phrase used to indicate someone who is acting like a hypocrite. It does not mean they are literally the loudest anti LGBTQ representative out there. He is a member of the GOP which opposes rights for the LGBTQ community. That is what makes him a hypocrite.

        Nothing in this tweet is misleading. I don’t expect you to agree with that though since your comment implies you don’t support trans rights (how the fuck is someone on the fence about another human having rights) and are likely a GOP voter anyway.

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          It does not mean they are literally the loudest anti LGBTQ representative out there.

          Agreed. But it implies a lot more than simply “acting like a hypocrite.” It implies the person is constantly or vociferously condemning something. Not just one time checking a box.

          I don’t expect you to agree with that though since your comment implies you don’t support trans rights

          The fact that you are turning to a baseless ad hominem and misrepresenting my position in order to claim that is why I won’t agree just exposes how little faith you have in your position.

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            8 months ago

            LOL! I love that you are in here acting like you are just being reasonable. If you are a member of the GOP, and gay, then you are a hypocrite.

            Everyone can see your BS for what it is. I’ll bet you go around saying you are fiscally conservative but socially liberal too. Get out of here with your garbage.

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              8 months ago

              If you are a member of the GOP, and gay, then you are a fucking hypocrite.

              I’m not sure I agree, but you are welcome to that opinion and it’s besides the point. The point being that using the phrase “he who shouts loudest” for this guy is, at best, grossly misleading. The only positions I know about him are pretty mildly “anti gay” if you can even call them that at all… additionally, it doesn’t even appear to be a big issue for him because I don’t see him pushing it constantly.

              Attacking me and making shit up about me because you need me to fit in some little box doesn’t change this reality. Sorry.

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                8 months ago

                You are fitting nicely into my “little box” all on your own. Anyway, I don’t really see any merit to this conversation anymore. Bye.

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                  8 months ago

                  Parting shot while fleeing defending a failed position. Classy.

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      8 months ago

      I won’t look up more info (because I really don’t want to), but isn’t this an obvious candidate for AI generated video?

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        I won’t look up actual facts I will just make stuff up to sound plausible in the thinnest margin and that’s all I need to do. Because real life is just like court. Reasonable doubt is all we need!

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          well some other comments pointed out that it’s 2 years old so deepfake video is much less likely. But if this was from the last few weeks I’d say this goes beyond reasonable doubt. In politics there’s always going to be people with motives to destroy a politician they think is harmful (which in this case he really is, of course). I think scrutiny is needed in any case. But if there’s no evidence for fakery, I don’t care about “reasonable doubt” either.

          Forgive me for not looking for a video of a man sucking another man’s dick, that’s not my kink. I don’t want to read articles describing the act either, with the risk of embedding a still. I don’t even live in the same country as this so I couldn’t care less if he actually did it, I just thought it was weird this wasn’t mentioned in the preceding comments.

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            I’m not asking you to do anything that has anything to do with anything sexual. I am asking you to simply provide any sort of credible evidence towards your accusations of it being a deep fake. If you have knowledge of deep fakes you surely know where to find evidence to back up your claims. Or show me how you think it’s something other than the rape victims say it is.

            Like I’m all for proving that an innocent person is innocent. But at least have something besides just yelling random crap that it could be. “It’s a fake video” with no evidence is not productive nor is it accurate. It’s the blatant attempts from a party that does not understand what logical thinking means.

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              1. I didn’t declare or yell anything, I asked a question.
              2. What “rape victims” are you talking about? Seriously, what the actual fuck are you talking about? This post is about an anti-LGBT guy getting caught being gay. You’re the one yelling baseless nonsense.
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                  8 months ago

                  No, I made it very clear upfront: I read the OP and the comments I replied to. You’re the one who went on the offensive and started a fight. You could have replied in a million other ways that aren’t aggressive, or not replied at all.

                  Edit: and whatever claims you’re talking about are not the topic of this conversaion

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                    Shut up. You are commenting on something you have no business commenting on. If you don’t look something enough you aren’t doing anything but spewing nonsense.