I know it’s .ml where such things happen but ffs! This guy needs to fucking chill 🤦

  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by “former” Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.

    Also it’s disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia “pacifist”.

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      7 months ago

      Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.

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      7 months ago

      Frankly everything these days is a matter of option. You aren’t going to get anywhere by trying to force an issue. A mod should simply let the community correct any factual errors so they are not getting involved.

      To be fair discussing politics online was a disaster on day one

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      7 months ago

      see Baader-Meinhof

      Yep the whole thing was, in retrospect, the second wave of denazification. Less so about the actual ideology, but deeper attitudes underpinning it. Things like the Jubelperser incident are completely unthinkable nowadays. The attitude by far isn’t dead yet as you can see e.g. when it comes to the reaction to Extinction Rebellion but it’s quite a ways from its former harshness and unquestioned acceptance.

      And just for the record: The RAF’s methods were never in any way popular. A cultish splinter group of a splinter group with very problematic internal dynamics not taking long to be more occupied with employing terrorism to free its members from prison than with any political struggle. Lots of issues with the urban guerilla in general, CCK Philosophy has an essay about it.

      Reducing the whole 68 movement in Germany to the RAF would be doing it a great disservice.

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        7 months ago

        And just for the record: The RAF’s methods were never in any way popular.

        I have to say that it’s kind of annoying that the Red Army Faction shares an acronym with the Royal Air Force. Every time I see the thing, I do a momentary double-take.

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          They themselves couldn’t even get the name straight, in German publications they used Rote Armee Fraktion, in English Red Army Faction. The distinction between fraction and faction is the exact same in German and English (fraction is a mere part of a unified whole, while a faction disagrees with the rest of the whole, to put it simply).