• Veraxus@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Not remotely. Both are very much right wing, but there is a wide and wild ocean between the two in terms of authoritarianism.

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          7 months ago

          https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-capital-punishment-brandon-bernard-lisa-montgomery-1234664126/

          His use of federal death penalties that he did a record number of at the end of his presidential term as an attempt to raise support for his re-election using illegally supplied drugs that can’t be used for that anymore.

          To the point that part of his re-election campaign is still in death penalty but using firing squads or hanging as his alternative to lethal injection since they could be made public to scare citizens against acting out and again he accidentally helped make illegal the drugs he used in federal executions.

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            7 months ago

            Trump is chasing populism, but the Biden team is not exactly proactively against capital punishment.

            Biden could tell the Justice Department not to pursue the death penalty, but he hasn’t.

            Harris kept the death penalty available when she was California attorney general.

            Through inaction, the Democrats are being equally authoritarian.

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              7 months ago

              Sure but there is currently 0 federal death penalties and he has stated there will be no more while president and kept the illegality of the drugs for lethal injection keeping it hard for states to perform and isn’t buying more.

              He may support the idea of it but isn’t supporting the action of it.

              Making him less authoritarian for sure.
              Not equal. That’s your own bias wanting an outcome. Sorry but no I’m gonna be factual in the ways I think they are problematic not reactionary.

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                7 months ago

                Those convicted are still on death row. Their experience of authoritarianism hasn’t changed from one president to the next.

                My point is not to use Trump as a yardstick, or even attack Biden. It’s to give perspective on how authoritarian the whole of US politics is.

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                  7 months ago

                  No that’s very clearly not what you are doing.

                  You have a point you want to make regardless of nuance or fact. There is no death row federal inmates, because now there is no death penalty.

                  If you don’t think there is a distance between actually being killed and being imprisoned then you are disingenuous. There are and even good arguments over what is nicer but they do fall to different levels.

                  You moved the goalpost after being called out, so while I can agree it is authoritarian I can not trust that you aren’t just tryna ng to look trustworthy when already shown to be not.

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                    6 months ago

                    You have a point you want to make regardless of nuance or fact.

                    The point is that Biden (and most of us politics) is authoritarian. There is no nuance. Only fact.

                    An example of there having been no executions … yet, is not a liberal flex.

                    The goalpost is steady.