• Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Hard disagree. Separation of church and state is right there. RIGHT THERE. in the constitution (I don’t mean literally of course, but you can FEEL it in there). And if you don’t believe me just ask any of the 46 consecutively Christian presidents we’ve had and they’ll tell you the same. The fact that 100% of them are Christian is clearly a coincidence (with #47 baking in the oven). I could easily flip a coin 46 times and have it land heads up every time.

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      Eh, if you define Christian as believing Jesus was the only son of god and the Messiah, then Thomas Jefferson was not one. He did believe in a god and Jesus’ teachings enough to have his own gospel put together, but did not believe in things like the resurrection. He thought the gospels as-given were full of garbage written by corrupted people.

      Usually people call that deism, when you believe in a god, but think Jesus was just a dude.

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        Many of the “founding fathers”/early US leaders were deists. They were super skeptical of organized religion in any form, and most dismissed out of hand the superstition and social control associated with religion. The US revolution happened at the height of the Enlightenment.

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        1 month ago

        i often wonder how many of them were just faking for the sake of the voters. I mean 100% a lot of them embellish it, anyone who actually thinks trump is that religious is either dumb or just in complete denial. If you could line all of them up with some truth serum and ask, i’d be really curious what you’d find. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had an atheist president at some point.