• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Yeah, because there’s absolutely no barriers to most people getting those jobs. People just don’t want more money 🙄

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      6 months ago

      Well, one has to learn those things. But why are we shitting on people that do now?

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        I’m not. I’m pointing out that you’re presenting it as something anyone can just do, which is far from the case.

        Apart from many people simply lacking aptitude in the jobs you’re talking about (not everyone can learn any trade), dozens of millions of people are working the equivalent of more than a full time job to (most often with limited success) make ends meet. They don’t have time or energy left over from their CURRENT job(s) to retrain and/or apply for other jobs. It’s not like they can just take enough time off without being fired.

        And then there’s the fact that a large portion of struggling people live in areas where those kinds of jobs at that kind of pay either don’t exist at all or there’s hundreds if not thousands that want the job per opening.

        And no, those people can’t just move. Moving costs a lot of money, time, and energy that the average working poor simply don’t have.

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          Well I agree with the difficulty here. But I think as a society we should both try to make it easier to make this transition and help individuals feel like they CAN make the transition. Otherwise it’s sort of nonstop toil ain’t it?

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            6 months ago

            On that we agree. Pretending that it’s already easy or even POSSIBLE for everybody doesn’t help achieve that goal, though.

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              I don’t think anyone thinks it’s super easy deep down. Folks might be glib with it though. I think it does us a disservice to assume the majority cant vs the majority can. But that’s just an opinion.

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                I think it does us a disservice to assume the majority cant vs the majority can

                It’s not an assumption, it’s statistical fact. Pretending otherwise is denial that stands in the way of improving things.

                But that’s just an opinion.

                An extremely unhelpful one.

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      6 months ago

      depends on the circumstances.

      lots of people have barriers. lots of other people are simply lazy and refuse to help themselves.

      and lots of folks just want someone to give them lots and lots money for merely existing so they can be a leech on others and society.

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        lots of folks just want someone to give them lots and lots money for merely existing so they can be a leech on others and society.

        Those are called billionaires

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          being a leech has nothing to do with whether you make five figures per year or 12. lots of young and old, rich and poor, would be happy to suck on somebody elses teet and do nothing with their lives if they had the option.