Or is it just doomed to the vapidity of sterile commercialization?
It feels like everything is serious these days… and ‘humor’ is only of the commercial variety. Joke communities and circlejerk communities are considered ‘hate groups’ now. Mods will ban you for sarcastic comments on ‘serious’ topics, and even on non serious ones, and everything is politicized either by trolls, bots, or whackjobs.
It’s boring when you can’t joke anymore. I miss my internet communities of 5-10 years ago when you could joke around, and even people of different beliefs and persuasions could laugh at themselves.
Now everything is so deadly serious. It’s a complete bummer. And any sort of ‘edge’ or sarcasm or sardonic remarks are ban-worthy.
I guess it’s just poe’s law run amok? I feel like mods could tell the difference 10 years ago and the non-jokey psychos were just ignored.
Yup! This is exactly what the bad actors (Russia, China, NK, UAE, India, etc.) have been doing to us all these years to destabilize us. It’s all part of their plan. And we let them do it with our “permissive society”; the paradox of tolerance.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason they do it is not for their love of communism or religious idiocy, but because they are miserable and live a shit life and want everyone else to be as miserable as them. They really don’t need to, as capitalism does a good enough job of fucking us on its own.
Dont forget Iran, ohh and south Africa teaming up with the Russians and Indians.
I think the paradox of tolerance is a bit of a falsehood often used by people not wanting to engage in good faith to avoid engaging in any sort of discussion simply discrediting without a single insightful point.
I also find it extraordinarily interesting that the second half of the quote is often left out.
That is not what the paradox of tolerance is. There is no discussion or anything even remotely insightful when it comes to things like Nazis, genocide, racism, oppression of a people/gender/etc. There can be no tolerance for intolerance.
“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion” - Karl Popper
That seems to indicate to me intolerance is fine if not nessasary as long as its actions can be countered by rational argument.
Dismissing an opinion that is intolerant to some degree is associating it with the awful things above and ironically is itself an intolerant act.
For instance im intolerant of child abusers should that opinion be suppressed for being intolerant?