And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong
The centrist take here really doesn’t work, it’s not a complicated problem. The Israeli state has been illegally settling land that already belonged to Palestinian citizens (illegally according to the UN, not to my ass), and Hamas spawned as a consequence of the people being forcibly removed under threat of violence. Israel is an apartheid settler state, and you may or may not agree with Hamas but the fact is that they’re an expected reaction to this.
Attacking civilians is always wrong, but it’s the expected consequence after decades of oppression and apartheid. The french revolution killed plenty of civilians, and I’m sure many of the instances were unjust, but when people revolt from oppression these things are bound to happen. The cure isn’t to murder more people, it’s to stop the oppression.
People who knew about the topic indeed expected the murderous state of Israel to respond extremely violently. It’s just the one who has the upper hand militarily and economically, and it chooses to perpetuate the cycle of violence and occupation.
I actually can point to the side who started it. The side who started it is the one which established a colonial, settler, ethnonationalist state in land that was previously inhabited by other people which were forcefully removed. And that side is Israel.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
The centrist take here really doesn’t work, it’s not a complicated problem. The Israeli state has been illegally settling land that already belonged to Palestinian citizens (illegally according to the UN, not to my ass), and Hamas spawned as a consequence of the people being forcibly removed under threat of violence. Israel is an apartheid settler state, and you may or may not agree with Hamas but the fact is that they’re an expected reaction to this.
“Hamas spawned”. So in your view Hamas has done nothing wrong?
Attacking civilians is always wrong, but it’s the expected consequence after decades of oppression and apartheid. The french revolution killed plenty of civilians, and I’m sure many of the instances were unjust, but when people revolt from oppression these things are bound to happen. The cure isn’t to murder more people, it’s to stop the oppression.
What was the expected consequence after October 7th?
If war crimes, mass murder and genocidal sentiments are something to be expected of a country you probably shouldnt be sending them military hardware
People who knew about the topic indeed expected the murderous state of Israel to respond extremely violently. It’s just the one who has the upper hand militarily and economically, and it chooses to perpetuate the cycle of violence and occupation.
Responding to extreme violence, yes.
You can’t really point to one side here and say “they started it”.
I actually can point to the side who started it. The side who started it is the one which established a colonial, settler, ethnonationalist state in land that was previously inhabited by other people which were forcefully removed. And that side is Israel.